Unleash The Nade Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 If this fat, greasy git gets uncomfortable at someone staring at him, I hope these lasted allegations make him spontaneously combust! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Which is it? I always regarded Peter Hain as a principled man and think it likely that he has good reason for his action.As long as that principle isn't the rule of law.Peter Hain has always been a twat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 46 minutes ago, printer said: As long as that principle isn't the rule of law. Peter Hain has always been a twat. You may be correct, printer - I don't profess to know with certainty. I remember him as an effective anti-apartheid campaigner and believed him to be a fundamentally decent man. Give us your evidence to the contrary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bold Rover said: Which is it? I always regarded Peter Hain as a principled man and think it likely that he has good reason for his action. I seem to remember he had to resign over misappropriating donations to his depute leadership challenge/campaign in 2008. I think he did the right thing in this case - why should these with money protect each other and simply and persistently break the law with impunity? As mentioned previously the whole political/legal set up in this country utterly stinks. Edited October 26, 2018 by ICTJohnboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 While Green should be accountable if he's done anything illegal, I'm also uncomfortable with someone signing a NDA, pocketing the pay-off and then being prepared to spill the beans anyway (if that is indeed what has happened here). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 You may be correct, printer - I don't profess to know with certainty. I remember him as an effective anti-apartheid campaigner and believed him to be a fundamentally decent man. Give us your evidence to the contrary.The general way he has behaved throughout his career since the early 1970s. I could be wrong as well, mate - but that's the way I see him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 You may be correct, printer - I don't profess to know with certainty. I remember him as an effective anti-apartheid campaigner and believed him to be a fundamentally decent man. Give us your evidence to the contrary.His first well known anti-apartheid protest was throwing broken glass on a pitch when South Africa were playing a game in Wales.A c**t of a protest even if it an anti-apartheid protest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I can vaguely remember him being a c**t over something, maybe the Iraq War, but can't find anything right now. Generally a good guy I would think. Ignoring the judges does sound like he's trying for a spot on "I'm a celebrity, get me out of here!" spot though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, MEADOWXI said: His first well known anti-apartheid protest was throwing broken glass on a pitch when South Africa were playing a game in Wales. A c**t of a protest even if it an anti-apartheid protest I didn't know - or have forgotten (same thing really) - about this specific incident. Fact is, successive British governments did nothing and only direct action brought an end to apartheid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Not a huge fan of Hain, but on the cuntery scale he’s a burglar compared to Philip Green’s mass murderer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I can vaguely remember him being a c**t over something, maybe the Iraq War, but can't find anything right now. Generally a good guy I would think. Ignoring the judges does sound like he's trying for a spot on "I'm a celebrity, get me out of here!" spot though. You may be correct, welshy, but I'm prepared to believe he's acting for the greater good, until there's evidence to the contrary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Given that these injunctions only seem to exist to line lawyers' pockets, the legal profession coming out against Hain probably suggests he did the right thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 The fact that this criminal is a sir tells you everything that's wrong with modern business and capitalism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, D.A.F.C said: The fact that this criminal is a sir tells you everything that's wrong with modern business and capitalism. A good chance now he'll be stripped of his knighthood... which will be a bit like Dr Harold Shipman being struck off the medical register of practicing GP's by the GMC. Edited October 27, 2018 by ICTJohnboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 While Green should be accountable if he's done anything illegal, I'm also uncomfortable with someone signing a NDA, pocketing the pay-off and then being prepared to spill the beans anyway (if that is indeed what has happened here).Depends on how it was all arranged. I wouldn't be surprised if there was stick and carrot here - sign the NDA, get a pay off - if you don't . . . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 10 hours ago, Archie McSquackle said: While Green should be accountable if he's done anything illegal, I'm also uncomfortable with someone signing a NDA, pocketing the pay-off and then being prepared to spill the beans anyway (if that is indeed what has happened here). What is the point of an NDA anyway? People can easily sign them then go straight to the press and sell their stories. If you are a big enough celeb to warrant getting people to sign an NDA then the public interest could probably be enough to stop any court action against you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 12 hours ago, D.A.F.C said: The fact that this criminal is a sir tells you everything that's wrong with modern business and capitalism. ....and the honours system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 It’s a baller move to sign an NDA and talk anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 The fact that this criminal is a sir tells you everything that's wrong with modern business and capitalism.Well, no it doesn't.It tells you something about the honours system though. Although nothing new. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 So he didn't do hundreds of people out of their pensions then? He should be in jail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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