bennett Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 The BBC contacted a club they don't talk to for comments. That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 11/03/2019 at 20:44, johnnydun said: Imagine watching a sniper sitting up in the flood lights picking folk off. It's about the only thing Jones has done that's left an impression with any fan this season...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 So going by the poll in this thread, we overwhelmingly vote in favour of the responsible club and fans being punished by the governing body. This comes across to me (correct me if I'm wrong) as we see strict liability as the preferred option A poll that has been voted on by supporters from a wide range of clubs, ages and backgrounds. Do the BBC findings not highlight the disconnect between the clubs boardrooms and us fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 58 minutes ago, ancientnoise said: This poll is horribly flawed. It's like the Brexit one but our SFA will have the good grace unlike the government to ignore it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, ancientnoise said: Yep. They're waiting for this weekend's games and for everyone to forget about it aren't they? Well the majority of Scottish football electors will be in the one place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, ancientnoise said: A cabal. The old FIRM is certainly called that for a reason, the rest of Scottish football cannot complain, they have and continue to enable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 8 hours ago, bennett said: The BBC contacted a club they don't talk to for comments. That makes sense. I thought that Rangers hadn't banned the BBC? If that's the case, why didn't they reply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 12 hours ago, johnnydun said: So going by the poll in this thread, we overwhelmingly vote in favour of the responsible club and fans being punished by the governing body. This comes across to me (correct me if I'm wrong) as we see strict liability as the preferred option A poll that has been voted on by supporters from a wide range of clubs, ages and backgrounds. Do the BBC findings not highlight the disconnect between the clubs boardrooms and us fans? 237 fans is hardly a disconnect too anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 3 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: 237 fans is hardly a disconnect too anything. One thing is for sure, no sensible person wants things to go on as they are, something has to change, and if no other option is put forward then strict liability should be tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: One thing is for sure, no sensible person wants things to go on as they are, something has to change, and if no other option is put forward then strict liability should be tried. I see the guy that threw his chair at the Aberdeen v sevco is up at court today hopefully he is banned from football for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: I see the guy that threw his chair at the Aberdeen v sevco is up at court today hopefully he is banned from football for life. That should be a given no matter what the court verdict is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 In fairness to the clubs, why would they publically come out in favour of something which hasn’t even been properly defined yet? Fans and pundits can debate for hours about the concept of strict liability but until there is a concrete plan in place for it clubs will refrain from commenting and quite rightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I think that's fair. I also think many clubs would be concerned about how, exactly, it would be enforced. I'd certainly be a bit cautious about putting trust into the Scottish football authorities with things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 40 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: That should be a given no matter what the court verdict is. So which team gets the points deducted the home team for bad stewarding or the away team for selling a ticket to a dafty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: So which team gets the points deducted the home team for bad stewarding or the away team for selling a ticket to a dafty? I'd see no problem with both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Principal Flutie said: I'd see no problem with both. Surely it would be on a game by case basis. Hibs' stewards failed to stop the ran bringing in the bottle. How were Aberdeen's stewards meant to stop the arsehole who broke a seat to throw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Suspect Device said: Surely it would be on a game by case basis. Hibs' stewards failed to stop the ran bringing in the bottle. How were Aberdeen's stewards meant to stop the arsehole who broke a seat to throw? I'd say that's fair. Certainly in the cases of items that shouldn't be in the crowd being thrown, that should go down as a club fine for both, and possibly pitch invasions as well, although I'd say that'd be a lesser punishment as it's harder to stop without having stewards covering every inch of the wall. But it's a hard one to draw the line with so there needs to be something in each case. In every case, the club of the perpetrator gets punished. Should go without saying but there's no doubt certain clubs want nothing to do with that, as they'd suffer if any such laws were brought into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: In fairness to the clubs, why would they publically come out in favour of something which hasn’t even been properly defined yet? Fans and pundits can debate for hours about the concept of strict liability but until there is a concrete plan in place for it clubs will refrain from commenting and quite rightly. I see it as the other way round. Clubs have to agree to bringing in strict liability, and then you get everyone round a table and thrash out what the rules and penalties are from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 The problem is Aberdeen are responsible for everything that happens within their stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 f**k up willy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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