bennett Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Florentine_Pogen said: The fact that Arlene Foster’s DUP are propping up the dysfunctional Tories might be worthy of your consideration. Ergo, hate Sevco......... Apparently dear reader, they are buying us some new players. So they can't be all bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 7 hours ago, AyrTroopMajor said: I actively will every Scottish team to win with the exception of Rangers. That includes Celtic. I've never personally met a Celtic fan or for that matter a Killie fan that I actually dislike, but Rangers fans are, on the whole, odious c***s and I have no desire to see them succeed in any of their endeavours. I hope that answers the question. Same as me. The Celtic fans I know personally are all sound. The Rangers ones I know are fuds who lash out verbally at not just football when they don't like what they hear, but in general life. Just permanently raging arseholes. Have a day off lads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Yes** except Rangers, f**k Rangers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Every other club bar the gruesome twosome. Horrible clubs with horrible fanbases. Anyone giving it the 'celtic fans are alright' patter can f**k off as well 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 It's a total stitch up from UEFA anyway, so no point willing St Johnstone to overcome the might of FK Beetroot Farmers for the sake of the coefficient. Might as well get a laugh out of Scottish sides losing and hoping Hibs go as far as possible instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the philosopher Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Support ALL Scottish teams in Europe - helps Co efficient and brings money in to the Scottish game - extra publicity etc. etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the philosopher Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, HibsFan said: It's a total stitch up from UEFA anyway, so no point willing St Johnstone to overcome the might of FK Beetroot Farmers for the sake of the coefficient. Might as well get a laugh out of Scottish sides losing and hoping Hibs go as far as possible instead. Your right EUFA do stitch it up for the rich league's but 4 qualifying games for all our teams is ridiculous,surely anything that helps to reduce it is beneficial 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I actively want Celtic and Rangers to lose every game, and whether it's against Motherwell or Maribor it's all the same. Any increase in their revenue is harmful to Scottish football as a whole. I do want to see the others do well, but really, European club competitions are an irrelevance to Scotland now. Even a club with a great heritage like Aberdeen would have to seriously overachieve just to make the EL groups. A combination of an abject failure to develop home-grown players and a relative shortage of TV money have made us weak. On top of that, UEFA have stitched up the competitions to such an extent that our 3rd and 4th placed teams won't even be in the EL in future, they'll be in the diddy Tunnock's Challenge Consolation Vase or whatever. European football is to Scottish clubs what the Scottish Cup is to Linlithgow Rose - some early season fun, maybe a trip somewhere new and a game against a bigger team, but really, we'll usually be out before the contenders even start and long gone before it gets serious. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, GordonS said: I actively want Celtic and Rangers to lose every game, and whether it's against Motherwell or Maribor it's all the same. Any increase in their revenue is harmful to Scottish football as a whole. I do want to see the others do well, but really, European club competitions are an irrelevance to Scotland now. Even a club with a great heritage like Aberdeen would have to seriously overachieve just to make the EL groups. A combination of an abject failure to develop home-grown players and a relative shortage of TV money have made us weak. On top of that, UEFA have stitched up the competitions to such an extent that our 3rd and 4th placed teams won't even be in the EL in future, they'll be in the diddy Tunnock's Challenge Consolation Vase or whatever. European football is to Scottish clubs what the Scottish Cup is to Linlithgow Rose - some early season fun, maybe a trip somewhere new and a game against a bigger team, but really, we'll usually be out before the contenders even start and long gone before it gets serious. Absolutely. For those of us over the age of about thirty, it's important to just accept that the game is different now. European competitions aren't for the likes of us, basically. If this third competition gets moving, it might be fun. But the days of our clubs competing (actually competing, not just getting a pasting) with the big countries are over and not coming back. Football is dead. Long live Celebrity Champions League Island. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesnowman Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I generally want to see all Scottish teams do well, but it’s a bit of a win win as if rangers and Celtic get pumped by some minnows it’s quite funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 God bless Killie and all who ride her.Want the diddies to do well. Old Firm fans don't give a toss about anyone but themselves so f**k em. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 17 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: Celtic and Rangers games in Europe are win/win these days - they get knocked out, and it's most amusing. They make it through, and our coefficient goes up. I only understand the first win. How's it a win if the OF get through and our coefficient goes up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) On 11/07/2019 at 11:53, Loki said: I would like to see all Scottish Clubs get as far as possible. If Celtic make the Champions League it means my club will get a boost to our budget. This 'logic' absolutely fucking incenses me. You're in the same division as Celtic, and the entire idea is that you compete with them using resources that cost money. Yet you regard something that can net them £20m+ on top of their already massive advantages, and might as a result see your club get a few hundred thousand, as somehow beneficial? It's sheer bonkerdom. Your "budget" does not exist in a vacuum. Its only significance is relative rather than absolute. What's the money for, as far as you're concerned? How does it help your club if one team gets many, many times as much while those round you get the same as you anyway? It really is a willing bloody serfdom that sees diddy sides grateful for pitiful scraps in this way. Edited July 12, 2019 by Monkey Tennis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 19 hours ago, Twinkle said: Anyone giving it the 'celtic fans are alright' patter can f**k off as well Exactly. Definite Celtic sympathies going on there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) I usually take enjoyment one way or the other. Either the coefficient improves, or I get a good laugh. Like, I'll be fine if Rangers beats (probably) Progres Niederkorn in the next round, but I'd laugh my ass off if they fucked up again. Edited July 12, 2019 by RossBFaeDundee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: This 'logic' absolutely fucking incences me. You're in the same division as Celtic, and the entire idea is that you compete with them using resources that cost money. Yet you regard something that can net them £20m+ on top of their already massive advantages, and might as a result see your club get a few hundred thousand, as somehow beneficial? It's sheer bonkerdom. Your "budget" does not exist in a vacuum. Its only significance is relative rather than absolute. What's the money for, as far as you're concerned? How does it help your club if one team gets many, many times as much while those round you get the same as you anyway? It really is a willing bloody serfdom that sees diddy sides grateful for pitiful scraps in this way. While you have a point, it helps Scottish football in general the more money there is in the game. Also it raises the profile. If, for example, 3 or 4 teams regularly qualified for the group stages, it would be a lot easier to attract better players to this country with the lure of this stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, big al said: While you have a point, it helps Scottish football in general the more money there is in the game. Also it raises the profile. If, for example, 3 or 4 teams regularly qualified for the group stages, it would be a lot easier to attract better players to this country with the lure of this stage. I'm really not fussy about attracting good players here. I'm serious. If I want to watch good players, I've got a telly. I'm far far more interested in our game being more egalitarian. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 46 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: I'm really not fussy about attracting good players here. I'm serious. If I want to watch good players, I've got a telly. I'm far far more interested in our game being more egalitarian. Seems it’s not just the old firm who are only interested in themselves. Also, watching games on tv is pretty boring compared to attending. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, big al said: Seems it’s not just the old firm who are only interested in themselves. Also, watching games on tv is pretty boring compared to attending. That's some pretty impressive point missing. Why exactly are you accusing me of self interest? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: That's some pretty impressive point missing. Why exactly are you accusing me of self interest? You don’t want better players in Scotland and a higher level of play helped by success of Scottish clubs in Europe. You're certainly not any St Nicholas anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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