Mr. X Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 59 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Hearts fans are remarkably confident considering they're 5 points adrift with less than half a season to play, their new manager hasnt won any of his first 5 games, and theyve absolutely zero idea who theyll be signing in the window. Did you not say we would be slaughtered by Aberdeen today? You are full of so much shit that every negative Hearts prediction you make gives me a wee confidence boost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, LincolnHearts said: We wiill take more points between now and the end of the season than St Johnstone do. Bookmarked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ye Olde Hamiltonian Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Ross County and Killie come on down and join the scrap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusTheBull Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 52 minutes ago, DC92 said: - Haring and Souttar are apparently due back in January, and Washington has just returned. Given the length of their absences, these three will effectively be new signings. f**k knows about Naismith. - we've started actually started getting on the front foot and creating chances in the last few games. If we can get a competent goalscorer or two in January we will inmediately be far better off. Souttar will probably be back for about 3 games before getting injured again in fairness. Your defence will be immeasurably improved if Berra continues on the bench though. Looked a lot more solid at the back today than whenever else I’ve seen you this season. I wouldn’t get too excited about today though. We’re dogshite currently and anyone in their right mind wouldn’t have given you as much time and space on the ball as we did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 57 minutes ago, DC92 said: - Craig Levein won't be making our signings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Hearts fans coming out swinging now that there's no games for three weeks to continue to show how shite they are. Nice. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, PauloPerth said: Hearts fans coming out swinging now that there's no games for three weeks to continue to show how shite they are. Nice. Yep, that's a pretty accurate assessment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Maybe it's the beer talking lads, but we've got a team that won't quit. They got the big scruffy Stendel here...theojanstWgrm...FIVE POINTS BEHIND??!!!? Get outta herezzzzz 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18May1991 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 8 hours ago, LincolnHearts said: We wiill take more points between now and the end of the season than St Johnstone do. You'll need to keep your fingers crossed your unprecedented 7 point lead over us holds up for our next 17 games. Probably not enough to keep you up though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Dont think Livingston are safe. Hibs, yes. I think Hearts will come good and Kilmarnock will get better. It'll be down to Hamilton, Ross County, St Johnstone, Livingston and St Mirren.I bloody hope so Blaze, I know we are a couple of strikers who can actually score a goal away from being better than we have been for most of the past decade but I really have the fear right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Moomintroll said: I bloody hope so Blaze, I know we are a couple of strikers who can actually score a goal away from being better than we have been for most of the past decade but I really have the fear right now. Any truth that O'Donnell is on his way to Aberdeen in January? Apparently already agreed a PCA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocular Patdown Required Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 This. As someone pointed out in this thread on twitter, the similarities between Killie now and the Hibs side that went down is alarming. Both teams had an embarrassing european result, and now with the Alessio sacking both teams have sacked their manager mid-way through the season. We're currently on a run of one win in eleven, hibs back then had a run of one win from fourteen games. Our next three league games after the break are Celtic (H), St. Johnstone (A), and Ross County (H). Given we've only beaten one of these teams in the season so far I wouldn't be surprised if we kept this winless run going, especially without major surgery to the current squad in the goalscoring department. The body language from certain other players in the squad also give the impression that they don't give a f**k. There still hasn't even been a statement from the board concerning a). any updates or even an acknowledgement that the club are searching for a new manager, or b). any updates regarding the January window, with it increasingly seeming like we'll have no manager in place for with every passing day since Angelo's sacking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Any truth that O'Donnell is on his way to Aberdeen in January? Apparently already agreed a PCA.It says everything that I would take Curtis Main as a part ex. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossDee01 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Hearts are in big trouble. Showing all the same signs as us last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Ocular Patdown Required said: This. As someone pointed out in this thread on twitter, the similarities between Killie now and the Hibs side that went down is alarming. The good news is - I dont think Butcher is in for the Killie job !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Can we not just merge this with the hearts thread? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Well, as it's looking like it's Alex Dyer until the end of the season, and our board don't have a fucking clue, I'd better say hiya to this thread. We're absolutely relegation candidates now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Not a sentence I ever thought I'd type, but we need to emulate Gary Locke's Hearts team from 2013/14. After 21 games, we'd picked up 13 points, the same as this season, and in the remaining 17 games, we picked up 25. 7 wins (all against bottom 6 teams), 4 draws and 6 defeats. If we match that, we almost certainly won't finish bottom and probably avoid 11th as well. Add another win and we're safe, take away a win and we're in serious trouble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) I was in the mood to suck the joy out of fitba' with some statistics so I put the last season-and-a-half into a python script, calculated an Elo-based ranking of the team strengths, and then resimulated the rest of the league 10,000 times to get a rough guess as to where the teams would end up. Here, columns are the league positions, rows are the teams, and the values are the percentage chance that a team is predicted to be in that position at the end of the season. Take this with a giant heap of salt, in that this requires some statistical assumptions (Elo parameters were just tuned to something vaguely sensible, and I fitted a probability distribution of goal differences by eyeballing a graph), and some football ones (manager changes and transfer windows might radically change a team's strength - Killie and Hearts would be the obvious top contenders for a rapid change in form). And the method is probably complete bollocks from the get-go, of course. (To keep myself honest on that last point, after the event, I checked the technique with other seasons since the split came into force; the predicted last-place from this method was actually last placed 13 times out of 18, with the last-placed predictee coming second-last 4 times, and the one 'other' case was 2013-14 where Hearts - the predicted loser - were officially last due to a points deduction and only second-last in terms of game results. The most anomalous historical prediction was that it predicted Aberdeen would be the most likely to win in 2014-15, albeit with only a marginally higher percentage than Celtic - 35% to 31% - so it wasn't too sure of itself, and it did successfully predict Aberdeen coming 9th in 2011, despite everything). Anyways, statistics confirms what we all knew already - Hearts are dugshite and it's a 70% chance they're going down... Edited December 30, 2019 by Aim Here 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Aim Here said: I was in the mood to suck the joy out of fitba' with some statistics so I put the last season-and-a-half into a python script, calculated an Elo-based ranking of the team strengths, and then resimulated the rest of the league 10,000 times to get a rough guess as to where the teams would end up. Here, columns are the league positions, rows are the teams, and the values are the percentage chance that a team is predicted to be in that position at the end of the season. Take this with a giant heap of salt, in that this requires some statistical assumptions (Elo parameters were just tuned to something vaguely sensible, and I fitted a probability distribution of goal differences by eyeballing a graph), and some football ones (manager changes and transfer windows might radically change a team's strength - Killie and Hearts would be the obvious top contenders for a rapid change in form). And the method is probably complete bollocks from the get-go, of course. (To keep myself honest on that last point, after the event, I checked the technique with other seasons since the split; the predicted last-place from this method was actually last placed 13 times out of 18, with the last-placed predictee coming second-last 4 times, and the one 'other' case was 2013-14 where Hearts - the predicted loser - were officially last due to a points deduction and only second-last in terms of game results. The most anomalous historical prediction was that it predicted Aberdeen would be the most likely to win in 2014-15, albeit with only a marginally higher percentage than Celtic - 35% to 31% - so it wasn't too sure of itself, and it did successfully predict Aberdeen coming 9th in 2011, despite everything). Anyways, statistics confirms what we all knew already - Hearts are dugshite and it's a 70% chance they're going down... You might want to increase the likelihood of us going down from 1.4% to somewhere in the 50's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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