madwullie Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/clinical/clinical-specialties/respiratory-/flu-hospital-admissions-in-england-rise-by-more-than-40-in-a-week/20039863.article "Meanwhile, the rate of influenza-like illness reported in primary care is above usual levels for the first time this season, according to PHE. GPs in participating practices reported consulting 13 patients per 100,000 population with influenza-like illness – an increase from last week’s 10.6 patients with flu-like symptoms per 100,000 registered population." December 16th, 2019 There was an increased level of influenza like illnesses in the UK in early to mid December. Given what we know now, I don't see why i'm being ridiculed for asking if it is plausible that these illnesses could be Covid-19 related. Covid 19 is not really like influenza though. Those who are dying or having narrow escapes are stroking (Kenneth Williams Gif), double pneumonia, very specific ct findings, dying on ventilators, kidney dialysis, liver problems, females especially suffering from heart issues, breathlessness lasting long after the virus has passed, dangerously low and unusual red blood cell count, sometimes requiring transfusion. No snotters, no sneezing, we even had charts for you to check to see if what you had was flu or covid, as the symptoms are pretty different. Even if you accept the unlikely hypothesis that a highly contagious virus was not very highly infectiousing its way through the population, NOT causing the build up of cases that the actual first wave has caused, NOT caused care homes to half the number of residents as soon as one of them caught it, avoided the major population centres that have been rattled by actual coronavirus, amongst all the other features of the spread of coronavirus that don't behave like flu, you then have the point I made above that often the final stages of dying from covid don't really look like the final stages of dying from a standard flu I'm not saying it's not possible, after all I'm just a retired English teacher, but from everything we've learned so far I'd give it a 97% chances of this not being the second wave, the first of which went more or less unnoticed in December. According to reports, in Wuhan, doctors pretty quickly identified that this wasn't no normal flu but were shut down by the govt and couldn't get that word out. Are our doctors not as capable? We're they not able to identify that this wasn't any old normal flu, or did they inexplicably decide to keep this information to themselves, keep it to themselves even up till now, where releasing the fact that we are on a second wave would probably chambge the approach we have to take to combat it now? Where are these doctors? Are they not as clever /brave as those in China? Are they STILL keeping it a secret despite everything that's gone on, a the revelations about the govt f**k ups, now would be the perfect time imo to release this info, further evidence of the govt (that they hate) suppressing information vital to the health of the nation - to the health of Europe and the planet in general because everyone has got it completely wrong? But they're either sitting on it, or just didn't notice? Just doesn't make sense to me mate. Something doesn't add up with your theory in afraid. Edited May 5, 2020 by madwullie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 The Mafia getting on the job - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52537573 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said: The Mafia getting on the job - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52537573 That report says 7 hours old, but the BBC website ran an almost identical piece 3 or 4 weeks back. Pretty bad they’re recycling stories when there’s so much more to cover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, Granny Danger said: That report says 7 hours old, but the BBC website ran an almost identical piece 3 or 4 weeks back. Pretty bad they’re recycling stories when there’s so much more to cover. Never noticed it the last time. Plenty of bandwidth, though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Calder Lion Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Security guard in Michigan shot dead for enforcing that state's mandated wearing of face masks in shops. Sums up Trump's America - poor guy was just doing his job. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52540266 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Calder Lion Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Further to recent posts regarding Covid-19 being around in December, this is interesting: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52526554 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Hancock is on the telly explaining that the app will; "If you're in a shop for a phone and get a ping from the virus, it'll test your phone for pings and isolate it until I get a test. If that's negative Bob's your uncle". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, East Calder Lion said: Security guard in Michigan shot dead for enforcing that state's mandated wearing of face masks in shops. Sums up Trump's America - poor guy was just doing his job. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52540266 I'll admit to being surprised to find he was (allegedly) killed by black guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Hancock is on the telly explaining that the app will; "If you're in a shop for a phone and get a ping from the virus, it'll test your phone for pings and isolate it until I get a test. If that's negative Bob's your uncle". What a mess. Clear as mud. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkmenbashi Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I was sure earlier in the thread we had established that Coronavirus originated in Angus in November or have I missed something? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Starmer showing himself up of Sky News a few minutes ago . Instantly dismissing the idea of the 4 nations exiting lockdown at different times, then immediately being open to Kay Burley's suggestion that areas of England could exit at different times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 49 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: The Mafia getting on the job - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52537573 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, Turkmenbashi said: I was sure earlier in the thread we had established that Coronavirus originated in Angus in November or have I missed something? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Starmer showing himself up of Sky News a few minutes ago . Instantly dismissing the idea of the 4 nations exiting lockdown at different times, then immediately being open to Kay Burley's suggestion that areas of England could exit at different times. Good to see Labour, on a UK-wide scale are able to keep finding fuckwit leaders, to replace, er fuckwit leaders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) Seems that the difference in excess deaths would point to different areas requiring different easing of lockdown strategies. Sturgeon seems to be erring on the cautious side even though we are not as badly hit as England. Here's the source of this random tweeter's info. https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/# Edited May 5, 2020 by Suspect Device 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 7 hours ago, The OP said: Misinformation and bad science being spread around social media is a major issue in the modern world and P&B has a higher readership than most facebook pages and twitter accounts. What you say about a substitution or a corner matters f**k all. Constant misinformation downplaying a pandemic could lead some people to treat the best scientific advice we have with more disdain This is very true, I nearly died. Got lovely white teeth now though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Is this true? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 33 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Seems that the difference in excess deaths would point to different areas requiring different easing of lockdown strategies. Sturgeon seems to be erring on the cautious side even though we are not as badly hit as England. Here's the source of this random tweeter's info. https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/# NS is very much erring on the cautious side - possibly with good reason. Will be interesting to see how today's briefing goes. The UK one yesterday felt fairly upbeat - I think it's time we got something with a similar feel to it. Getting to be hard work hearing the same 'Stay Home, Save Lives' message everyday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Steven W said: NS is very much erring on the cautious side - possibly with good reason. Will be interesting to see how today's briefing goes. The UK one yesterday felt fairly upbeat - I think it's time we got something with a similar feel to it. Getting to be hard work hearing the same 'Stay Home, Save Lives' message everyday Were you not on a few days ago, predicting no end in sight? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-52491703 FFS they should just breed her and old Tom and they government and taxpayer will not need to worry about funding the NHS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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