ICTChris Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Donathan said: Furlough getting extended until March Tier 4 til March because the money's there IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Yeah, that four week lockdown in England isn't just lasting 4 weeks, is it? What a fucking shambles of a government. All that pretence and then another massive u-turn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 13 hours ago, DAFC. said: I believe Doctor Hilary Jones has stated that the information from the Oxford vaccine will be known “very soon” I won't believe it until I hear it directly from Holly and Philip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Donathan said: Furlough getting extended until March I'd be fucking seething if I got let go just prior to the furlough announcements and had to make do with brew money rather than a % of wages (thanks to the shitty level of unemployment benefit). A few did leave in our work the other week, got a horrible feeling they're shit out of luck. Edited November 5, 2020 by Thistle_do_nicely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Donathan said: Furlough getting extended until March Have you got a furlough guy as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 You already shouldn’t be visiting your parents unless it’s for care purposes, there are no football games in Fife you can watch, and you’re being advised against caravan holidays and flights to Barra. It might’ve escaped your attention but things have changed globally in the past few months. I’m not necessarily in favour of travel bans becoming law (especially between areas punted into T3 when they don’t need to be, based on a rogue nearby area) but we’d be joining totalitarian hotspots like, er, Wales, the USA, Australia, New Zealand and Spain in doing so. Plenty Amateur football matches going in in Fife you can watch as on public parks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: I'd be fucking seething if I got let go just prior to the furlough announcements and had to make do with brew money rather than a % of wages (thanks to the shitty level of unemployment benefit). A few did leave in our work the other week, got a horrible feeling they're shit out of luck. How many times? It's buroo or b'roo. Ancient and shortened version of bureau as in Employment Bureau, not brew as in beer or tea. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Interesting. You would have to assume that this, coupled with BJ's repeated assurances that it will be "very different" by Spring, means they know something is coming that will allow them to majorly ease restrictions by April. It's also a sure fire indicator that when they said 4 week lockdown in England, they meant months.You'd like to think so but this is the British government we're talking about.The first lockdown/furlough scheme bought them the best part of 7 months in which they achieved the square root of f**k all. I wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised if we get to March and are having the exact same discussions we're having now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 80% furlough payments, doesn’t look like employers have to contribute anything. I can see tier 4 coming for Lanarkshire and Glasgow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 This is what a newscaster says ominously in the background at the beginning of a movie about a zombie apocalypse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 The thing with mass testing is, even with a false negative % , it should hoover up so many more asymptotic spreaders than now and send them home to isolate that cases should drop like a stone in about a month. By the end of the 2nd month they should be low enough to permit social mixing as the number of positive people missed will drop dramatically each timeCheap test with relatively poorish accuracy - outdoors eventsMedium test with high accuracy -indoor events schools and workplaces Laboratory verified test- healthcare and care for vulnerable workers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, NotThePars said: This is what a newscaster says ominously in the background at the beginning of a movie about a zombie apocalypse I'd rather be in a bivouac on South Georgia. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: I broke my wrist when I was a teenager and my mum refused to believe me and only took me to the hospital the next day, dropped me off and made me walk three miles home, so sure was she that I was putting it on. To be fair to her I broke it playing football and finished the match so she probably thought I was being over dramatic. My dad has arthitis in his ankle which he broke as a teenager but played rugby on and then never went to the doctor about. More than fifty years later he is registered disabled and can't walk but on the other hand, he might not have been selected for the first XV again had he pulled out. I'm pretty sure I suffered a concussion playing rugby when I was at school as well, I hit my head on the ground after being tackled and had a severe headache for about 24 hours aferwards with a flashing aura, essentially a migraine. I don't remember ever having migraines before that but I have had them periodically since so effectively I suffered permanent brain damage from it. Nothing done, I don't think I even told anyone about it at the time. I can remmber a team mate being knocked unconcious, we just picked him up and he came to and we played on, nothing was done about it, no follow up, no-one checked he was OK. I don't really blame anyone involved in any of these, that's just how it was back in the dark days of the 1990s. That's what you get for being educated by the IRA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 I see NS is finally admitting the R is around 1 in Scotland and not 1.2 to 1.4I believe the figures actually show it is marginally below 1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, superbigal said: I see NS is finally admitting the R is around 1 in Scotland and not 1.2 to 1.4 I believe the figures actually show it is marginally below 1. Wait two weeks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 If the R number is around 1 then why are they reporting large rise in cases? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 80% furlough payments, doesn’t look like employers have to contribute anything. I can see tier 4 coming for Lanarkshire and Glasgow.Just NI and pensions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: Interesting. You would have to assume that this, coupled with BJ's repeated assurances that it will be "very different" by Spring, means they know something is coming that will allow them to majorly ease restrictions by April. It's also a sure fire indicator that when they said 4 week lockdown in England, they meant months. I'm sure Boris's assurances are based on a solid understanding of the facts and he's not just winging it and hoping for the best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 The thing with mass testing is, even with a false negative % , it should hoover up so many more asymptotic spreaders than now and send them home to isolate that cases should drop like a stone in about a month. By the end of the 2nd month they should be low enough to permit social mixing as the number of positive people missed will drop dramatically each timeCheap test with relatively poorish accuracy - outdoors eventsMedium test with high accuracy -indoor events schools and workplaces Laboratory verified test- healthcare and care for vulnerable workers That's fine if those testing positive abide by the isolation rules but so few are it's virtually pointless. Testing is futile if those testing positive are not going to isolate as instructed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 "As part of the revised scheme, anyone made redundant after 23 September can be rehired and put back on furlough." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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