Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Arch Stanton]

1 hour ago, superbigal said:

East Renfrewshire  365.3 to 166.4 Down 51.98%  Terrific are these Posh Weegies ?

You've obviously never been to Dunterlie or Auchenback in Barrhead or Tin Town in Neilston.

[vikingTON]

6 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

You may recall there was a UK wide priority list? Which has been worked through is Scotland in the order of the list..

 

^^^ word salad

[Wee Bully]

Do you understand how percentages work?

What a strange question.

Explain.

[Todd_is_God]

2 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Do you understand how percentages work?

Given that the vaccines are literally available, the only reason we can't have done more outside of care homes at the same time as what we have done inside them is because we weren't prepared for doing so.

That could be down to a lack of vaccinators, a lack of sites, or not having contacted people to arrange an appointment.

All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation.

[Wee Bully]

Given that the vaccines are literally available, the only reason we can't have done more outside of care homes at the same time as what we have done inside them is because we weren't prepared for doing so.
That could be down to a lack of vaccinators, a lack of sites, or not having contacted people to arrange an appointment.
All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation.

Why haven’t they been able to vaccinate all those in care homes south of the border?

Is it lack of vaccinators, lack of sites or not having contacted care homes to arrange a visit?

All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation.

[vikingTON]

18 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Because the SG didn't properly prepare to hit the ground running.

The care homes taking priority was a smokescreen designed to play to the gallery who want to proclaim how much more NS cares.

As proven by the pallet burners having already reached 90% of care homes earlier in the month and also being well ahead of Freeman's tinpot efforts by overall population:

http://www.carehome.co.uk/news/amp/article/id/1640532/pm-brings-in-army-as-england-lags-behind-scotland-and-ni-with-care-home-vaccination

Scotland's rollout excels in no category and is trundling along the bottom overall with the fucking clowncar Welsh ministry - it of the 17 different lockdown policies in the autumn infamy.

Heads should roll unless this is resolved by the end of the month, but with the minister responsible pottering into retirement anyway I somehow can't see her shaking things up.

[Todd_is_God]

3 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Why haven’t they been able to vaccinate all those in care homes south of the border?

Is it lack of vaccinators, lack of sites or not having contacted care homes to arrange a visit?

All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation.

Pathetic usual cult response.

Our overall rollout is shite, but at least we have done more care home residents than England!!!!!!

[Elixir]

7 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

What a strange question.

Explain.

We may well have nearly finished care homes. We're also 3% under our population share contribution. That 3% could have been made up simultaneously in other cohorts, i.e. those over the age of 80 in the community.

Primary school stuff.

[UsedToGoToCentralPark]

Given that the vaccines are literally available, the only reason we can't have done more outside of care homes at the same time as what we have done inside them is because we weren't prepared for doing so.
That could be down to a lack of vaccinators, a lack of sites, or not having contacted people to arrange an appointment.
All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation.

There's hundreds of thousands of doses sitting in a warehouse in Scotland not getting used. Pathetic.

England seems to be working on a if we've got it, get it distributed and get it used. Sensible.

Care homes being used as a sound bite response.

If you're sitting in a A&E in an English hospital in the middle of the night and they have unused doses they are using them on patients where suitable, that's a great idea TBF.

[Todd_is_God]

2 minutes ago, Elixir said:

We may well have nearly finished care homes. We're also 3% under our population share contribution. That 3% could have been made up simultaneously in other cohorts, i.e. those over the age of 80 in the community.

Primary school stuff.

I'm tired of hearing this line tbh. Either we weren't "nearly finished" when it was first used, or we're flapping about getting through whatever amount remains.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

Just start firing the vaccine into anyone to get the numbers up. That’s all that matters.

[Elixir]

5 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Why haven’t they been able to vaccinate all those in care homes south of the border?

Is it lack of vaccinators, lack of sites or not having contacted care homes to arrange a visit?

All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation.

Having a larger spread in both care homes and 80+ cohorts rather than seemingly waiting to tie up just care homes is more effective for two reasons: the first is that having a larger number vaccinated quicker means it has a greater gross effect on immunity levels and transmission, second is that mortality rates between care homes and people aged 80+ in the community will be negligible.

[craigkillie]

1 hour ago, accies1874 said:

3) Your final point is stupidly dismissive and I wouldn't have been surprised if Granny Danger wrote it. I don't think "it's a bit shit to watch it at home"; it really depresses me that something that I've waited my entire life for will be reduced to just another few games on the TV. What will the difference be between our triple headers in October and November and the tournament itself? Having something that probably would've been one of the best experiences of many of our lives become the football equivalent of Love Island or I'm A Celebrity isn't "a bit shit". 

I've got tickets to Scotland's two games and will be absolutely fuming if I can't go. It's still not a reason to scrap the tournament though, and that was the point I was making.

If you wanted to make that argument, then being at the games in normal circumstances would hardly be far off one of the triple headers either, given that we'd have two games at Hampden and one away game. The reason it won't feel like that is the same reason a league decider or a derby match in the league doesn't feel like every other run of the mill game - there's proper jeopardy involved and we all know it.

[Elixir]

Quite the intellectual line-up. 

[Steven W]

18 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

I'm tired of hearing this line tbh. Either we weren't "nearly finished" when it was first used, or we're flapping about getting through whatever amount remains.

Wasn't the care homes quoted by NS as being "95% complete". So by now we should be making big inroads onto the 80+ group. But it would seem we're not.

Where is this "Ramp Up"?

[John MacLean]

37 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

It's amazing. Even when confronted with black and white facts, cult members just cannot bring themselves to acknowlege SG failings.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? Why the need to try to characterise people who don't adopt the same stance as yours in such stark terms? It was 'second wavers' previously (you were wrong about that incidentally just as you were completely wrong about the public health crisis being over) now people who don't follow your chosen narrative are 'cult members'. 

I don't know if right now we in Scotland are falling behind on the vaccine roll out or simply adopting a different approach to elsewhere. I do know that I'm down for my vaccine next week well ahead of when I was anticipating getting it. Don't know what that says about the roll out. Maybe nothing but until targets are being missed with no credible explanation then I'm keeping an open mind. 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

43 minutes ago, superbigal said:

Fairly large Doctors Practice in North Fife only been able to scratch the surface of it's large population of over 80s. 

Received just over 100 Vaccine doses.

Does seem really odd.

Another load of 12 Community Vaccine Centres Kick off in Fife on 1st February.  Subject to getting any vaccine.

Yep, my wife’s practice have received less than half of what they need with no clear delivery structure to get the vaccines out and plan. The heath board has also just taken their vaccination site off them as a mass vaccination venue causing further delays. 

42 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Given that the vaccines are literally available, the only reason we can't have done more outside of care homes at the same time as what we have done inside them is because we weren't prepared for doing so.

That could be down to a lack of vaccinators, a lack of sites, or not having contacted people to arrange an appointment.

All 3 of those reasons represent a lack of preparation.

Or it could just be that we’ve absolutely fucked it and have a bunch of fucking morons leading the vaccine roll out? 

[Todd_is_God]

7 minutes ago, John MacLean said:

Why the need to try to characterise people who don't adopt the same stance as yours in such stark terms?

What word would you rather I used to describe people so subscribed to an ideology that they refuse to see any shortcomings?

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Pish. Freeman must walk.

Are you hiding here because Hearts lost again?

[Paco]

I remain hopeful this is going to be a Biden v Trump style thing, with England racing ahead with their vaccine numbers in the first instance but the plan coming to fruition as time goes on...

But it’s starting to look a bit bleak.

By my count this is the state of play:

Target 1 - middle of Feb to complete priority groups 1 & 2 by Feb 1st. 19,400 per day needed. Should hit it. There is an extra bit of wiggle room in that they Sturgeon said in Parliament ‘start of Feb’. I could get over the 3rd or 4th.

Target 2 - 44,600 per day (target 1 plus 25,200 per day) to complete groups up to over 70’s by Monday 15th Feb. Sturgeon committed to ‘middle of Feb’ in Parliament this week.

I think Target 2 is now too big to be met. We aren’t doing 44k per day right now, which is needed. We’re barely doing half. So it climbs every day and will be into impossible territory by the middle of next week.

Target 3 - There’s also the looming 280k for over 65’s by the start of March, which would be an additional 7.5k per day if starting today (they’re not). 20k per day if we give it a fortnight. In isolation, probably fine - but with the expected backlog from Target 2, I don’t see us making it either.