djchapsticks Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 40 minutes ago, GiGi said: Would P&Bers accept Falkirk dropping down a sinkhole if it meant getting the pubs open quicker? Hasn't it already?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jamie_Beatson said: As far as the pace of progress goes, if we go forward over the next week at 50k a day Mon-Sat and then 30k again on Sunday we'll be at upwards of 1.2 million vaccines delivered. We could be knocking on the door of 2 million doses by the end of the month at that pace. That's phenomenal. There continues to be a lot of chat about having the JCVI groups done by the start of May but at this pace they could be through them in the first week or two of April. Obviously they won't want to over promise if supplies are variable, but the hope is there... At the current pace, we should be through the 1-9 priority groups by early April *usual caveats. The unknown is how they split resources to go back to start second jags, and carry on with first jags. Mid-May is a reasonable assumption as things stand for all first jags to be done whilst going back to those done in Jan/Feb for a second time (based on 50k a day, with first jags reducing to 30k a day around mid-March whilst resource diverts back to second jags). Just guesswork, but by the end of furlough we should be in a pretty good place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jamie_Beatson said: As far as the pace of progress goes, if we go forward over the next week at 50k a day Mon-Sat and then 30k again on Sunday we'll be at upwards of 1.2 million vaccines delivered. We could be knocking on the door of 2 million doses by the end of the month at that pace. That's phenomenal. There continues to be a lot of chat about having the JCVI groups done by the start of May but at this pace they could be through them in the first week or two of April. Obviously they won't want to over promise if supplies are variable, but the hope is there... It's hard to work out the numbers due to second jags starting to be administered . Has it been announced what the split of new vs second jabs will be issued? Easier at week 13 as the numbers were low to start with but eventually we are going to have 50k people looking for their second dose when a number of 50 to 55 year olds have yet to get their first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, Am Featha *****h Nan Clach said: Every vaccine story has explained exactly what is known. The BBC one clearly explains that the limited tests suggest that the AstraZeneca vaccine still prevents severe illness, which is a good result. Vaccine expert on right now saying that isn't the case. The only result they have is that in 2000 test patients average age of 35 there was do difference in rates of infection of the SA variant between half that were given Astra Zenica and those who were given a placebo. No one in the entire test group was hospitalised. So in this test the AZ vaccine did nothing measurable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) There is a lot of stock being put into a trial of 2000 people which has clearly acknowledged and defined limitations. Even if a booster is required, it's not a big deal. Relax, everyone. We've got this. Edited February 8, 2021 by G51 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Elixir said: Looks like the dreaded South Africa variant is small change to the Pfizer vaccine. I always likes to get my science news from an account which organises camps where adults can dress up as animals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, The Moonster said: Watch the BBC news tonight at 6pm and tell me how many times this is mentioned. I rarely watch the news. My overarching point about all of this is that people tend to get angry about bias and never recognise the many other times when it's not the case. Like when people on different sides of the argument phone up or write into the the BBC to express disgust at the bias shown during a the same news feature. I am lucky in that my finances or mental health have not been impacted in any way by Covid, so when I see the main story tonight (which I probably won't watch) and hear 1000+ dead or concerns about variants, I just see this as a reporting of statistics and a genuine, but not insurmountable potential issue, not wild fear mongering designed to scare people into meekly accepting draconian laws laid down by a nanny state government. I'm fairly easy-ozy about what happens from hereon in. I think ultimately a fairly sensible balance between health and economics will be reached and we'll be back to almost normality fairly soon and normality not long after that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 A molecular biologist who is also a furry is extremely "pandemic in the internet age" isn't it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, realmadrid said: It's hard to work out the numbers due to second jags starting to be administered . Has it been announced what the split of new vs second jabs will be issued? Easier at week 13 as the numbers were low to start with but eventually we are going to have 50k people looking for their second dose when a number of 50 to 55 year olds have yet to get their first. I guess it depends how close they stick to 12 weeks as the schedule. Obviously 10k have already had a second injection and we're not yet 12 weeks into the programme. I think when I looked the other day we were at about 225k doses by mid January. So in theory we need to have done 225k second doses by early April. That proportion will ramp up dramatically from then on. It also creates an incentive to get through as many first doses as possible by then! Take it to its extreme - if they got to 400k doses a week by next week they'd be at 2 million doses delivered by Feb 28. If they could get it to 500k doses a week from then on we'd be at 4 million plus doses by the end of March. That's about 90% of the entire adult population of Scotland if it all went to first doses (which obviously it won't). If we achieve 90% coverage across the entire population by the end of this that'll be a massive achievement given there is going to be a proportion of people who can't/won't have it. I'd love to be optimistic enough to think that's going to happen - it almost certainly won't, but equally it isn't that dramatic an uplift from where we are now if the supplies can continue to match the demand! Edited February 8, 2021 by Jamie_Beatson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 278k in the Uk yesterday showing a big drop for England. Weather definitely an issue heard London had an inch of snow that will have trapped many in their house. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 'Inspiring' Hancock-led briefing upcoming at 5PM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gav-ffc said: 278k in the Uk yesterday showing a big drop for England. Weather definitely an issue heard London had an inch of snow that will have trapped many in their house. That's poor. Vaccine sites in some of South East England and Suffolk were also closed today on weather grounds so probably a not great day tomorrow as well. Edited February 8, 2021 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Michael W said: That's poor. Vaccine sites in some of South East England and Suffolk were also closed today on weather grounds so probably a not great day tomorrow as well. Not surprising. I remember getting off the train at Euston once and they’d had about a centimetre of snow overnight. The whole city was in full on panic mode and chaos reigned 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) More evidence of the vaccines impacting on tRaNsMiSsIoN. Edited February 8, 2021 by Elixir 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Put on the BBC a few mins ago. In the discussion before the briefing Big focus on positive tests, hospitalisation and deaths all down. Also discussed how it was quick and easy for manufacturers to tweak the vaccine. Come on Matt, get on to the fear mongering! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Am Featha *****h Nan Clach said: I rarely watch the news. My overarching point about all of this is that people tend to get angry about bias and never recognise the many other times when it's not the case. Like when people on different sides of the argument phone up or write into the the BBC to express disgust at the bias shown during a the same news feature. I am lucky in that my finances or mental health have not been impacted in any way by Covid, so when I see the main story tonight (which I probably won't watch) and hear 1000+ dead or concerns about variants, I just see this as a reporting of statistics and a genuine, but not insurmountable potential issue, not wild fear mongering designed to scare people into meekly accepting draconian laws laid down by a nanny state government. I'm fairly easy-ozy about what happens from hereon in. I think ultimately a fairly sensible balance between health and economics will be reached and we'll be back to almost normality fairly soon and normality not long after that. I try not to any more simply because it was depressing me. I tuned in last week to BBC Scotland at 6:30pm as we'd hit 50k vaccinations a day for the first time and I was half expecting a night of some more optimistic news but it wasn't even mentioned, so I'm not sure that "just reporting stats" is true or accurate. They deliberately report depressing news IMO, and when there is information to be relayed they look for the negative angle (you're news story given there was a perfect example - slightly positive headline in quotes from the PM, quickly watered down with another reminder about the study that we should all be worried about). Whether their stats show that more people watch bad news than good news who knows, but I'd like to think our national broadcaster is a bit more considerate than simply playing the numbers during a pandemic. I'm glad your life hasn't been affected and I'm glad you see the need for a sensible balance between health and economics - my gripe is the government are still, almost 12 months in, unable to tell me when and how that sensible balance will be achieved. Jason Leitch almost on a daily basis tells me that some restriction on my life could be here forever. This is mental fucking torture for me and many others - surely you can recognise that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 well, this should cheer up anyone who's feeling a bit down with it all. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55982131 And remember, don't try this at home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Hancock calls on over-70s to now contact the NHS to get their jab, rather than wait to be contacted. "Unless you are resided in Scotland, in which case you should contact Sky News, the Daily Mail or Express so as one of their half witted journalists can bring it up at the following days coronavirus press conference" he said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Hancock calls on over-70s to now contact the NHS to get their jab, rather than wait to be contacted. "Unless you are resided in Scotland, in which case you should contact Sky News, the Daily Mail or Express so as one of their half witted journalists can bring it up at the following days coronavirus press conference" he said. Got a link to this? Would be amazed if he actually said this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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