Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Theroadlesstravelled]

It’s not impossible to get to zero covid. Other countries have done it.

Get the cases as low as possible through the vaccine and then test and trace.

It would take a lot of effort which people don’t want cause they can’t be arsed.

[Sergeant Wilson]

13 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said:

Feeling is mutual, you bumpkin.

It was funny to be fair.

[Detournement]

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-universal-digital-identification-and-you

A Microsoft article from 2018 stating:

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The fundamental mission of creating a universal identification system that incorporates every person on the globe, using modern technology and the support of various governments, financial institutions and more is the goal hidden behind the humanitarian cause.

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If the Alliance's goal is a globally recognized digital identity for everyone from birth to death, will that become a global mandate? How will it be enforced and by whom? What happens to those individuals who are unwilling to participate? Will they be persecuted? And how will the implementation of identification evolve with technology beyond smartphones? Will wearables, implant's like those being used in Swedish subways or some form of digital tattoo become the norm?

It also mentions digital tattoos and wonders whether persecution will be neccessary.

Edited February 19, 2021 by Detournement

[Wee Bully]

Personally I think he's pushing this to lead into a digital ID which will allow everyone to be tracked in our movements as we are online and just like Google, Facebook and Microsoft have made huge profits from online surveillance there will new be opportunities to profit and also influence group behaviour. I suspect Blair and his backers want something similar to China's Social Credit system operating in the West.
Bill Gates (who has given Blair $16m over the past five years) has been pushing a project called ID2020 to give everyone digital IDs but is especially focused on Africans. He has invested in technology which will leave a quantum dot on anyone who receives a vaccination which will brand them with details of their vaccination status and identity. It's not hard to see this being used to make it easier to process and reject climate refugees in the future.
Cashless society is also coming and that will be another tightening of societal control and will have consequences beyond just using a debit card or phone rather than notes.
 

Wow. Just, wow.

[madwullie]

8 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Personally I think he's pushing this to lead into a digital ID which will allow everyone to be tracked in our movements as we are online and just like Google, Facebook and Microsoft have made huge profits from online surveillance there will new be opportunities to profit and also influence group behaviour. I suspect Blair and his backers want something similar to China's Social Credit system operating in the West.

Bill Gates (who has given Blair $16m over the past five years) has been pushing a project called ID2020 to give everyone digital IDs but is especially focused on Africans. He has invested in technology which will leave a quantum dot on anyone who receives a vaccination which will brand them with details of their vaccination status and identity. It's not hard to see this being used to make it easier to process and reject climate refugees in the future.

Cashless society is also coming and that will be another tightening of societal control and will have consequences beyond just using a debit card or phone rather than notes.

 

It's definitely pretty apparent that his reputation is being laundered for whatever reason. I'm not particularly taken with the wise old head type shit that's being massaged into us. The guy is and always will be fucking scum 

[Burnieman]

If Bill Gates wants to monitor me then batter in, I'm sure he'll lose interest once I start showing him my programme collection.

[djchapsticks]

3 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

It’s not impossible to get to zero covid. Other countries have done it.

Get the cases as low as possible through the vaccine and then test and trace.

It would take a lot of effort which people don’t want cause they don't fancy the cost of being mentally and financially ruined getting there.

Fixed.

[Detournement]

Just now, Burnieman said:

If Bill Gates wants to monitor me then batter in, I'm sure he'll lose interest once I start showing him my programme collection.

You are already being monitored every time you go online. The average Smart Phone user has their movements tracked by 200 different companies.

The issue isn't do large corporations and governments want to monitor you. The issue is how is the surveillance going to be expanded?

[Detournement]

3 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Wow. Just, wow.

This isn't a conspiracy theory.

Microsoft have it on their website.

[Billy Jean King]

Sorry, but get fucked you sanctimonious twat.
He has explained that he got ill with the initial typical symptoms, which went away, and has been left with being energy drained. That is a shite state of affairs for him, and as I said I hope that gets better as quickly as possible for him, but the reality is that shutting down the country for this sort of illness would be ridiculous and if you’re suggesting otherwise you’re part of the problem. Also your last line is just an outright lie, please point out where I’ve said we should be opening back up now? It certainly isn’t in the post you’ve quoted, the opposite in fact.

I didn't say "now" you have added that !

You did say....if Covid is reduced to people getting ill to the extent you have, then we’re absolutely in the clear and by that point everything should be completely open and should have been for a while.

I'm not advocating locking down in my post I'm saying you appear to be belittling someone elses illness.

As for the rest of rant, dearie me what problem am I part of exactly and where do I advocate locking down for Long Covid / PVF ?

You honestly think folk posting on the general nonsense section of a Scottish football forum are somehow "part of the problem" whatever that problem is ? You have definitely lost the plot. No one on here is part of any problem. It's text tapped out on a phone ffs. No one on here is setting policy so ergo cannot be part of any problem. Keep some perspective of what this is, an internet forum !

[Distant Doonhamer]

9 minutes ago, 101 said:

I think Leitchs role is mainly PR as that constant face that's important in a crisis obviously in the inner circle but this is literally Dr Smith's job.

Leitch does have a PR role in this pandemic but his remit in Scottish Healthcare delivery is way wider than that. Both Leitch and Gregor Smith have major roles and as such both have significant influence. I've no way of knowing who if either has more influence on policy and think it's probably wrong to assume one or the other does.

Edited February 19, 2021 by Distant Doonhamer

[Burnieman]

1 minute ago, Detournement said:

You are already being monitored every time you go online. The average Smart Phone user has their movements tracked by 200 different companies.

The issue isn't do large corporations and governments want to monitor you. The issue is how is the surveillance going to be expanded?

Excellent, I have an App with my programme collection on it, Bill's probably already seen it in that case.

[Honest_Man#1]

2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

I didn't say "now" you have added that !

You did say....if Covid is reduced to people getting ill to the extent you have, then we’re absolutely in the clear and by that point everything should be completely open and should have been for a while.

I'm not advocating locking down in my post I'm saying you appear to be belittling someone elses illness.

As for the rest of rant, dearie me what problem am I part of exactly and where do I advocate locking down for Long Covid / PVF ?

You honestly think folk posting on the general nonsense section of a Scottish football forum are somehow "part of the problem" whatever that problem is ? You have definitely lost the plot. No one on here is part of any problem. It's text tapped out on a phone ffs. No one on here is setting policy so ergo cannot be part of any problem. Keep some perspective of what this is, an internet forum !

Poor attempt at backtracking there tbh.

[101]

13 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

It’s not impossible to get to zero covid. Other countries have done it.

Get the cases as low as possible through the vaccine and then test and trace.

It would take a lot of effort which people don’t want cause they can’t be arsed.

It is possible, but it seems an odd thing to do a year into the pandemic especially when you have 10s of effective vaccines and 100s of treatments. Maybe next year we will be quicker off the blocks, I don't think it has anything to do with "effort".

[budmiester1]

45 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Mild to moderate illness and the medium to long term PVF that follows, as horrible it is to the people affected, should absolutely not be factored in when discussing restrictions and what can and cannot open up as it not a danger to overburdening NHS.

 

I’m suffering from the PVF part of the Virus and yes I’m utterly exhausted but I’m with you on this.

[8MileBU]

3 hours ago, Left Back said:

Boris pledging to donate our excess vaccines to the developing world.

Decent pledge. I hope he remembered to tell them we have no excess until the UK population is vaccinated.

2 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

Falkirk/Forth Valley in general performed well last time around and is having a stinker now. Wonder why....
 

My good old home town of Bo’ness being lumped in under the Falkirk brolly might have something to do with it.

2 hours ago, Snafu said:

There's an article in the DR about the outbreak at the First bus depot in Larbert.

This, and just been announced this week of a small cluster at the Whyte & Mackay plant in Grangemouth.

[ParsJake]

44 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Personally I think he's pushing this to lead into a digital ID which will allow everyone to be tracked in our movements as we are online and just like Google, Facebook and Microsoft have made huge profits from online surveillance there will new be opportunities to profit and also influence group behaviour. I suspect Blair and his backers want something similar to China's Social Credit system operating in the West.

 

 

[Honest_Man#1]

1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said:

That's bang out of order.

The guy posted that he had been ill for quite a while and you are basically telling him it's nothing and that the severity of illness he has suffered is insignificant enough for it to be proof that we should be opening back up. Arsehole behaviour.

 

26 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

I didn't say "now" you have added that !

Just clocked this bit, and you are all over the place here with your Helen Lovejoy moment.

In the first post, you say I’m an arsehole for suggesting that if Covid is reduced to a state where people get minor symptoms and a severe form of PVF that we should open up. From your wording in bold, and because you suggested I’m an arsehole for it, I assumed that you thought I was suggesting opening up now. You’ve now said that you didn’t think I meant that, so the two options are either 1) that you think I’m an arsehole for telling him the type of illness he suffered is minor enough that we should open up in future when Covid is reduced to that at worst, which if it is what you meant that fine because that is exactly what I was saying, or 2) you did try to twist it to me saying open up now and are backtracking on it when pulled up.

Which is it?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said:

2 hours ago, Michael W said:

Meanwhile Peston reporting that furlough is going to be extended until autumn. Naturally that's devoid of context but it looks like a bad sign. 
*Peston, not Preston. He is as inspiring as the dull down is, right enough. 

I've had a work meeting today where we were told to prepare software wise for the £20 UC uplift reversal scheduled for 4 April to be U-Turned by Sunak in the budget. The speculation is that it will be extended for at least 6 months. All pointing to the financial life support going deep into 2021.

I said this about 6 or 7 weeks ago, the whole "talk behind the talk" pointed to furlough being extended until August / September at least, which of course I found all rather depressing.

Good to see they're looking at extending the additional £20 though, I mean there's really no excuse for not doing this when they deem the state should be required to pay up to £2,500.00 per month for the lucky ones.

[Detournement]

8 minutes ago, ParsJake said:

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https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-universal-digital-identification-and-you

It's literally on their website.

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As more and more transactions become digital in nature and are built around a single global identification standard, supported by Microsoft, the question of who will govern this evolving global community and economy becomes relevant. Especially since nonparticipants in this system would be unable to buy or sell goods or services.