Left Back Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: Given that barely any supermarket workers wore facemasks until they were mandatory and they seemed to get on ok Pozbaird wasn't exactly wrong was he? And has he says barely anyone in the UK wears a mask with a safety rating. Every single cotton mask is utterly pointless and the vast majority of surgical style masks are unrated. That's why Germany has switched to real surgical masks on transport. Apparently NHS Tayside are now insisting on surgical masks on their premises. Haven’t seen the report but it was mentioned to me earlier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gaz said: I get why folk are relieved and delighted to be given a bit of positive news but why the f**k is anyone believing a word Johnson says? The c**t could tell me today was Monday and I'd check my newspaper. So who should we believe then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Detournement said: Given that barely any supermarket workers wore facemasks until they were mandatory and they seemed to get on ok Pozbaird wasn't exactly wrong was he? And has he says barely anyone in the UK wears a mask with a safety rating. Every single cotton mask is utterly pointless and the vast majority of surgical style masks are unrated. That's why Germany has switched to real surgical masks on transport. The post had nothing to do with masks and everything to do with his attitude to the pandemic in its infancy last year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Glen Sannox said: So who should we believe then? Ad lib obviously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Gaz said: I get why folk are relieved and delighted to be given a bit of positive news but why the f**k is anyone believing a word Johnson says? The c**t could tell me today was Monday and I'd check my newspaper. Boris is the hero to anti-lockdown, Brexit loving, "people of this country have had enough of experts" Tories. Edited February 22, 2021 by Theroadlesstravelled 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 So in the absence of a yes I have to assume you agree it’s a no then. Oxford may have compiled the stats but each individual country measures this in different ways. You can show anything you want with individual statistics. It doesn’t necessarily mean you’re arriving at a fact.As a great man once said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The post had nothing to do with masks and everything to do with his attitude to the pandemic in its infancy last year. He was right though. The people who were melting down about busy beaches and 50 cars parked in Strathclyde Park were the idiots. The third lockdown has been a lot more rational with less grassing up of neighbours or complete hysteria about the prospect of being infected. I can remember a poster on here saying he was scared to go on the Glasgow subway in the middle of the summer! It'll be interesting to look back at the media coverage of the initial weeks at some point. The Lombardy coverage was obviously ludicrous but I also remember youngish people on social media and TV saying they had been infected and it was 3 or 4 days of hell. That kind of coverage obviously drove up the fear but probably led to loads of people with mild symptoms assuming they didn't have it and spreading it further. Edited February 22, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Folk on here often bring up pozbairds lockdown trip with his wife as if it’s something worthy of outrage I couldn’t give the slightest f**k and it’s beyond me how anyone else could. Utterly insignificant in the spread of covid if 2 people from the same household go to the same placeIf you haven’t bent or broke the rules regularly I suggest you get a life 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Detournement said: He was right though. The people who were melting down about busy beaches and 50 cars parked in Strathclyde Park were the idiots. The third lockdown has been a lot more rational with less grassing up of neighbours or complete hysteria about the prospect of being infected. I can remember a poster on here saying he was scared to go on the Glasgow subway in the middle of the summer! It'll be interesting to look back at the media coverage of the initial weeks at some point. The Lombardy coverage was obviously ludicrous but I also remember youngish people on social media and TV saying they had been infected and it was 3 or 4 days of hell. That kind of coverage obviously drove up the fear but probably led to loads of people with mild symptoms assuming they didn't have it and spreading it further. But that's applying information that we know today to justify decisions made back then. We didn't know all that much about the pandemic at that point - all we had to go on was the official advice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Folk on here often bring up pozbairds lockdown trip with his wife as if it’s something worthy of outrage I couldn’t give the slightest f**k and it’s beyond me how anyone else could. Utterly insignificant in the spread of covid if 2 people from the same household go to the same place If you haven’t bent or broke the rules regularly I suggest you get a life You're an arsehole though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 He was right though. The people who were melting down about busy beaches and 50 cars parked in Strathclyde Park were the idiots. The third lockdown has been a lot more rational with less grassing up of neighbours or complete hysteria about the prospect of being infected. I can remember a poster on here saying he was scared to go on the Glasgow subway in the middle of the summer! It'll be interesting to look back at the media coverage of the initial weeks at some point. The Lombardy coverage was obviously ludicrous but I also remember youngish people on social media and TV saying they had been infected and it was 3 or 4 days of hell. That kind of coverage obviously drove up the fear but probably led to loads of people with mild symptoms assuming they didn't have it and spreading it further. The amount of hours of my life i lost last year trying to calm my hysterical partner was outrageous As soon as the china news started ramping up then onto Italy she was convinced it meant certain death and the end of society 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainspotter Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 40 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 47 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: I agree 100% but it's disingenuous for the PM to have a "measures gone by June" poster headline whilst somewhere underneath in the small print so to speak is "except possibly next winter" Also his refusal to give an answer to an end of home working was a concern. It seems odd we could have the likes of Nightclubs and Pubs operating normally but he can't commit to returning to work premises. That just doesn't ring true to me. Surely he is going to put that squarely in the hands of employers? He tried that before, backed by the Mail and former head of the CBI, as some sort of emotional blackmail to save Pret a Manger and Starbucks. All of the City's major employers ignored him and it was never mentioned again. I doubt he'd risk losing face, on this at least, a second time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, Gaz said: The return of Ad Lib has reminded me of my plans for an Odd Couple-style sitcom when he shared a hoose with Fudge. @Carnoustie Young Guvnorwould be better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, G51 said: But that's applying information that we know today to justify decisions made back then. We didn't know all that much about the pandemic at that point - all we had to go on was the official advice. You could already see in March from the figures in other countries how it was affecting different age groups. Edited February 22, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, Detournement said: You could already see in March from the figures in other countries how it was effecting different age groups. But we didn't really know to what extent, and we certainly didn't know just how low the risk of socialising outside was. Even as recently as August/September, there was still a lot of uncertainty about it. It's quite common that people make a decision that was correct with hindsight, but was wrong according to the information they had at the time. It doesn't mean they made a good decision, it means they got lucky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: 99% of deaths come from those groups. There is no justification for continued disproportionate restrictions in order to keep the other 1% safe. Deaths aren't the only relevant metric. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Boghead ranter said: Doesn't foreign holidays depend on the destination country being willing to let us in? Admittedly Mrs Ranter was kinda distracting me by asking "what did he just say there?" several times, but I never heard him say about foreign travel. Yeh i think thats sensible enough, hopefully though countries will look at the vaccination rates and the effectiveness and for once british tourists will look an attractive prospect. 4 hours ago, Boghead ranter said: JL on Radio Scotland saying zero Covid is unlikely for a long, long, long time. But then adding that it's still something the world should aim for. Hahahahaha Look, im gonna buck the trend, im hopeful nicola will see sense tomorrow, tell us what steps we’ll take, tell us the criteria, win back support and get people behind you. I dont genuinely think anyone will if criteria are laid out actually expect firm dates, just indicative, be clear about indicative status and give people hope. Boris is a fucking arsehole and none of this is ‘good work’ from him, he should get f**k all credit for this roadmap, this is the likes of whitty et al and civil servants doing the hard work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) What David Tanner was actually referring with his “you’re lying through your teeth” bit. Edited February 22, 2021 by Scotty Tunbridge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 The amount of hours of my life i lost last year trying to calm my hysterical partner was outrageous As soon as the china news started ramping up then onto Italy she was convinced it meant certain death and the end of society Not to that extent, but i did fear how bad it would be when i seen the pictures from italy. Never went full lovejoy on it, but it did show admittedly, the worst case scenario.As the months went on, i relaxed a bit more (not to the extent of breaking rules) but certainly to the extent of not wiping the shopping down. Etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Not to that extent, but i did fear how bad it would be when i seen the pictures from italy. Never went full lovejoy on it, but it did show admittedly, the worst case scenario.As the months went on, i relaxed a bit more (not to the extent of breaking rules) but certainly to the extent of not wiping the shopping down. Etc.I can distinctly remember watching Sky and BBC news channels almost exactly a year ago to the day. I'm not ashamed to say that I was absolutely shitting it and my anxiety levels were through the roof at the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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