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*Clears cigar smoke out the road*

24 deaths of people who had tested positive for Covid have been registered in Scotland since yesterday. 500 new cases (2.5% tests), 726 people in hospital (-24 ), 69 patients in ICU (-1)

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5 minutes ago, GiGi said:

We opening the gyms again or what. My lifestyle has taken a bit of a dive since they shut. I was more inclined to cook, eat better and generally look after myself better before the gyms were forced to close. Since then I exercise a lot less, and generally suffer from a lethargy and can't be arsed cooking some nights at all. Entirely in my own gift to do all of these things but it is clear to me that gyms should be an absolute priority to open to the public asap.

There's been quite a few gym owners I know making this point. Undoubtedly they are concerned about their businesses, but I read an article from UK Active that reported a covid rate of 0.34 per 100,000 visits, and that's considering the gyms in England reopened 2 months before they did in Scotland.  They've made a fair point that they can be part of a positive change in attitudes towards health coming out of all of this but it seemed to fall on deaf ears up here.  

They do benefit mental health for many, but it also gives an opportunity for the SG to prove that they're serious about tackling obesity.  It's a societal attitude problem, and treating physical activity as a priority might help send the message that a healthy lifestyle is essential.  It's completely mental that obesity is not only responsible for 23% of deaths in Scotland but also the main underlying health issue in covid-deaths and yet you can't go to the gym but can get McDonald's straight to your door.  That's hardly going to promote a change in our attitude to healthy eating and exercise.    

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gaz said:

This further backs up my rage that we've locked down the entire country for a year to protect these old c***s and most of them don't give a f**k.

You keep saying this but it wasn’t just “these old c***s” we locked down to protect. 

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6 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:


So no fans at games at Hampden for the Euro’s but England will have full capacity :lol: 

 

Sounds like SG not wanting to have to make a commitment, which is pretty much what they've criticised the Tories down south for (in terms of putting dates on things, anyway).  Can't imagine this being too popular...

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So no fans at games at Hampden for the Euro’s but England will have full capacity [emoji38] 
 
"It doesn't look good."

Not sure what this "source" is looking at because it looks fucking great from where I'm sitting.

Cases down. Positivity rate down. R number down. Hospital numbers down. ICU numbers down. Vaccination numbers up.

BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW!!!!!
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Just now, super_carson said:

Sounds like SG not wanting to have to make a commitment, which is pretty much what they've criticised the Tories down south for (in terms of putting dates on things, anyway).  Can't imagine this being too popular...

This could lead to a bit of hand forcing.

And rightly so - its time to get sensible. Fans should be able to go to those games- and in meaningful numbers.

Personally I think its heading towards the Cup Final will have a meaningful number of fans, as will the Hampden games.

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12 minutes ago, Rugster said:

You keep saying this but it wasn’t just “these old c***s” we locked down to protect. 

I know. I'm being slightly glib.

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24 minutes ago, super_carson said:

There's been quite a few gym owners I know making this point. Undoubtedly they are concerned about their businesses, but I read an article from UK Active that reported a covid rate of 0.34 per 100,000 visits, and that's considering the gyms in England reopened 2 months before they did in Scotland....

It's all been one big populist mess. Cannae allow low risk things like lower league fitba to happen because people will moan about how they cannae do something high risk while the see folk doing something low risk and focus groups are telling them that will cost the SNP votes. These decisions should never have been in the hands of politicians to decide and should have been determined rationally by public health professionals.

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Just now, Steven W said:

This could lead to a bit of hand forcing.

And rightly so - its time to get sensible. Fans should be able to go to those games- and in meaningful numbers.

Personally I think its heading towards the Cup Final will have a meaningful number of fans, as will the Hampden games.

I'd hope so too, but whether or not the SG are prepared to make a commitment this early on is the issue.  Personally, I think that we should be able to have supporters in Stadiums given downward trends with the data but it just smacks of this ultra-cautious taking-no-chances strategy.  It will be massively unpopular if we can't have  game at Hampden but it gets moved a couple hours down the road to Newcastle for a full house. 

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1 minute ago, LongTimeLurker said:

It's all been one big populist mess. Cannae allow low risk things like lower league fitba to happen because people will moan about how they cannae do something high risk while the see folk doing something low risk and focus groups are telling them that will cost the SNP votes. These decisions should never have been in the hands of politicians to decide and should have been determined rationally by public health professionals.

Like Devi and Leitch?

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Just now, LongTimeLurker said:

It's all been one big populist mess. Cannae allow low risk things like lower league fitba to happen because people will moan about how they cannae do something high risk while the see folk doing something low risk and focus groups are telling them that will cost the SNP votes. These decisions should never have been in the hands of politicians to decide and should have been determined rationally by public health professionals.

I think someone said this months ago (can't remember who) but any decision taken by a politician is a political decision.  

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5 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

It's all been one big populist mess. Cannae allow low risk things like lower league fitba to happen because people will moan about how they cannae do something high risk while the see folk doing something low risk and focus groups are telling them that will cost the SNP votes. These decisions should never have been in the hands of politicians to decide and should have been determined rationally by public health professionals.

Leitch and Sridhar are public health professionals.

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So no fans at games at Hampden for the Euro’s but England will have full capacity [emoji38] 
 
I'd love to know where the BBC are getting this from, it's akin to their earlier regurgitation exercise this week. UEFA publicly stated the games would be played at the agreed venues regardless of crowds. If they have rowed back on that I'd like to see it. Not sure how England have given any "guarantee " given they have merely announced earliest possible dates, hardly a guarantee in anyone's eyes. Also 2 games at Wembley are before their restrictions end so simply cannot have full crowds as it stands. Most of the other cities hosting are way behind the UK vaccine wise so again assurances or guarantees would be baseless.

It "should" be feasible to have crowds come mid June but I simply cant see it being guaranteed by anyone. I suspect this is yet another BBC anti govt scare story.
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1 hour ago, madwullie said:

I punish myself to a greggs for lunch once a week or so, and the just eat guy is always hanging about outside picking up deliveries. At 1130 in the morning. I didn't even know you could phone shit in at that time. 

FTFY.

5 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

It's all been one big populist mess. Cannae allow low risk things like lower league fitba to happen because people will moan about how they cannae do something high risk while the see folk doing something low risk and focus groups are telling them that will cost the SNP votes. These decisions should never have been in the hands of politicians to decide and should have been determined rationally by public health professionals.

Fucking hell, worst idea yet from the thread. If that was the case we wouldn’t be allowed out of the house until 2025.

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I'd love to know where the BBC are getting this from, it's akin to their earlier regurgitation exercise this week. UEFA publicly stated the games would be played at the agreed venues regardless of crowds. If they have rowed back on that I'd like to see it. Not sure how England have given any "guarantee " given they have merely announced earliest possible dates, hardly a guarantee in anyone's eyes. Also 2 games at Wembley are before their restrictions end so simply cannot have full crowds as it stands. Most of the other cities hosting are way behind the UK vaccine wise so again assurances or guarantees would be baseless.

It "should" be feasible to have crowds come mid June but I simply cant see it being guaranteed by anyone. I suspect this is yet another BBC anti govt scare story.
Still the same info on UEFA website.

The 12 original UEFA EURO 2020 host cities will stage the tournament when it takes place in summer 2021, with the UEFA Executive Committee also confirming the updated match schedule for the finals.
All existing tickets remain valid for the tournament in 2021, though buyers who wish to return their tickets will have a final opportunity to request a refund from 18 to 25 June, via euro2020.com/tickets. Dates for potential future ticket sales – including for fans of the four teams that qualify via the play-offs – will be confirmed at a later date.
The UEFA Executive Committee also expressed its appreciation to the host associations, host cities and their authorities for their continuous support and commitment to organising the postponed UEFA EURO 2020.

I suspect UKG offering to "host" all fixtures is leading to the BBC trying to ramp up the pressure on venues.
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