ICTChris Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gaz said: Anyone else follow the Covid One Year Ago on Twitter? (@YearCovid) Really interesting but also absolutely insane how much of a mess was made of it back at the time. It's a brilliantly terrifying account. Yesterday was Caprice Day, when a supermodel managed to understand a global pandemic better than several highly credentialled public health experts. I've seen a few people post about the fact that a lot of the original response has just kind of been memory holed. The fact that the public health response to this virus was to let it spread as stopping it was pointless has been forgotten. I mean, some of the repsonse since then has been better and you can see some of the people involved have learned and adapted but it does make yhou think - if the experts have this wrong, what else is wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 It's a brilliantly terrifying account. Yesterday was Caprice Day, when a supermodel managed to understand a global pandemic better than several highly credentialled public health experts. I've seen a few people post about the fact that a lot of the original response has just kind of been memory holed. The fact that the public health response to this virus was to let it spread as stopping it was pointless has been forgotten. I mean, some of the repsonse since then has been better and you can see some of the people involved have learned and adapted but it does make yhou think - if the experts have this wrong, what else is wrong? Some experts think Rangers arent a new club. Il go with them being wrong about that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, ICTChris said: It's a brilliantly terrifying account. Yesterday was Caprice Day, when a supermodel managed to understand a global pandemic better than several highly credentialled public health experts. I've seen a few people post about the fact that a lot of the original response has just kind of been memory holed. The fact that the public health response to this virus was to let it spread as stopping it was pointless has been forgotten. I mean, some of the repsonse since then has been better and you can see some of the people involved have learned and adapted but it does make yhou think - if the experts have this wrong, what else is wrong? Spot on. It's easy to say "well, in hindsight we'd have done this now we have better information" but it's absolutely mental how many bad decisions were taken despite them having better information at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I would like to see a compilation of Karol Sikora's bullshit proclamations from the brief period he was in vogue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Spot on. It's easy to say "well, in hindsight we'd have done this now we have better information" but it's absolutely mental how many bad decisions were taken despite them having better information at the time.It also ignores the absolute shit-show of late December and in Johnson’s case, into January. His sycophants in the media are parroting this line that he’d act ‘quicker and stronger’ if he could repeat last March, but wilfully ignores the much worse second wave that was caused by... er, Johnson dithering and refusing to act quicker or stronger. Remember when the virus was at peak levels and he sent kids to school for a banter day? They Did Everything They Could. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: 19 minutes ago, Gaz said: Anyone else follow the Covid One Year Ago on Twitter? (@YearCovid) Really interesting but also absolutely insane how much of a mess was made of it back at the time. I follow it and some of it would be funny if it wasn't so scary. There was a tweet the other day where a health expert (unfortunately I can't remember who) suggested that masks were dangerous as the virus could get trapped in the mask and make you more likely to breath it in. That was Jenny Harries. Only the deputy CMO! There are more than a few of them that ought to think very carefully about what they say at the Inquiry. "I only advise!" simply isn't going to wash given how shit the advice was as the politicians throw them under the bus for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 https://www.joe.co.uk/news/people-who-walk-slowly-more-likely-to-die-from-coronavirus-266893 Good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said: Not particularly surprising news about the impact of COVID on cash machines. Up to 80% fewer withdrawals, average withdrawal increasing. Quick check of my bank app shows I've visited the cash machine three times since lockdown. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-56413993 Ive yet to visit one since March 2020 Edited March 17, 2021 by realmadrid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Had the AZ vaccine yesterday. Minimal side effects thus far. Arm a bit sore and bit of a headache. Nil else of note. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, 101 said: https://www.joe.co.uk/news/people-who-walk-slowly-more-likely-to-die-from-coronavirus-266893 Good. RIP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: Had the AZ vaccine yesterday. Minimal side effects thus far. Arm a bit sore and bit of a headache. Nil else of note. Your heart rn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 There appears to be a lot on confusion out there as to how the Levels systems interacts with the timeable. I'm one of those confused. Is this timetable now what is being followed, or will Levels be re-introduced (when?) to further complicate matters and on 17th May for example, some pubs can open indoors but some wont be and will be delayed until....? depending on Levels? The messaging is again confusing and poor.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56419647I don't think they have fully explained yet how the levels are set. They've gave info on the required cases and test positivity to move between levels but I think there is more factors to be announced (perhaps hospitalisations and vaccines?). Required case and positivity values for each level are shown in the table in the article below.https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19143984.covid-scotland-lockdown-level-area-latest-figures-revealed/From what I've seen both timetables and levels are being introduced from 26th April. Any changes before that date are for the whole country. The dates given are just the earliest possible for each area. For example if an area has 45 cases/100k and 3% positivity they'd likely be allowed to move down to level 2 on 17th May. If they had 55 cases/100k and 6% positivity they would have to wait for it to come down first to then go to level 2 on another date. There is still a whiff of "we'll make things up as we go along" about this though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, charger29 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56419647 I don't think they have fully explained yet how the levels are set. They've gave info on the required cases and test positivity to move between levels but I think there is more factors to be announced (perhaps hospitalisations and vaccines?). Required case and positivity values for each level are shown in the table in the article below. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19143984.covid-scotland-lockdown-level-area-latest-figures-revealed/ From what I've seen both timetables and levels are being introduced from 26th April. Any changes before that date are for the whole country. The dates given are just the earliest possible for each area. For example if an area has 45 cases/100k and 3% positivity they'd likely be allowed to move down to level 2 on 17th May. If they had 55 cases/100k and 6% positivity they would have to wait for it to come down first to then go to level 2 on another date. There is still a whiff of "we'll make things up as we go along" about this though. Thanks. Clear as mud! So using 17th May as an example when "adult contract sport can resume" eg fitba below SPFL, I read that as perhaps it can in say Fife and Edinburgh, but it wouldn't in the Lothians as things stand as they wouldn't fall into the Level 2 limits, they'd still be at Level 3. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Heard a guy on GMS this morning, a social psychologist. Forget his name. Anyway, he was giving it the stuff that we need to go really slowly because "cases" are 50 times higher than at the lowest levels last summer. 1. We are testing much more. 2. We have a vaccine that is cutting hospitalisations and deaths. This was always the point of lockdown. Honestly feel like some folk are moving the goalposts. Expect many stories on the Phillipines Variant today and how this means we might have to delay exiting lockdown. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 "A policy of asking incomers from high-risk countries to quarantine ended on 13 March 2020. From then until 8 June, the UK had no border measures in place." https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/16/uks-response-to-covid-issues-that-a-public-inquiry-could-examine You sometimes forget how insane this all was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Cabbage Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gaz said: "A policy of asking incomers from high-risk countries to quarantine ended on 13 March 2020. From then until 8 June, the UK had no border measures in place." https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/16/uks-response-to-covid-issues-that-a-public-inquiry-could-examine You sometimes forget how insane this all was. One of my brothers pals worked in Tesco in Corstorphine, fairly close to Edinburgh airport and there were absolutely tonnes of tourists coming here over March/April/May time coming from all sorts of places, people asking staff directions, with big suitcases etc, utterly unfathomable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.V.T. Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Last 24 hours625 new cases - 3% positivity 422 in hospital - down 1838 in ICU - down 412 have died 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.V.T. Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Nearly 50k vaccinated yesterday - mixture of both doses 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 The Covid One Year Ago account is all the evidence you need to support setting up a public inquiry.Both health experts and politicians got it badly, badly wrong and their failings should be laid bare for everyone to see and so lessons can be learned.I would support two inquiries north and south of the border to avoid accusations of partisanship. No reason why the Scottish government shouldn't face scrutiny of how they have acted. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, D.V.T. said: Nearly 50k vaccinated yesterday - mixture of both doses Think she said 37,000+ first doses and 10,000+ second. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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