Bairnardo Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 If you leave aside committing crime, I can't think of too many things we are not free to make up our minds about.I think thats what BJK was saying tbh. Whether you have a political affiliation or not, you are free to make up your mind. I read it the other eay first time round and wondered... Dont want to put words in his mouth though.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, oaksoft said: If you leave aside committing crime, I can't think of too many things we are not free to make up our minds about. Okay, maybe better leave political ideology to another forum. At least, we can agree on this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I think thats what BJK was saying tbh. Whether you have a political affiliation or not, you are free to make up your mind. I read it the other eay first time round and wondered... Dont want to put words in his mouth though....Spot on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Daily Cases Update: Day 58 of consecutive rises, I think we are peaking now with a small 2.23% rise to a mouth watering 414.5 Infectivity up to 10.5% We are still double that of England but the gap is closing. Dundee really can't get much worse. Seems to have spread its effect to Angus, Perth & Fife now. In England the North East and Newcastle particularly is the new hot area. New European figures today. Scotland 414.5, England 191.3, Portugal 109.3 to 118.0, Russia 97.8 to 100.0, Spain 76.3 to 92.9,Northern Ireland 91.4, Wales 88.2, at other end we have Poland 1.9 to 1.8, Germany 5.1 to 5.0, Italy 7.4 to 7.5, Czech 9.0 to 8.5, Switzerland 8.4 to 9.0, Sweden 14.2 to 16.0 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1139048/coronavirus-case-rates-in-the-past-7-days-in-europe-by-country/ Scotland previously peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1) Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9% Total Cases 7 days from 25th June to 1st July were 22,153 now 22,646 up 2.23%. Positivity was 10.2% now 10.5%. Cases per 100k were 405.5 now 414.5 Home Nations Daily update : UK Average 181.1 to 198.7 up 9.72%, England 172.8 to 191.3 up 10.71%, Wales 79.4 to 88.2 up 11.08%, Northern Ireland 84.1 to 91.4 up 8.68% Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows. Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview LEVEL 2 RED Dundee City 862.6 to 879.3 Seriously Dundee, When is it going to peak. 17.3% positivity. Whitfield 1,783.3 per 100K Midlothian 706.3 to 719.2 East Lothian 615.4 to 607.9 LEVEL 1 City Of Edinburgh 602.4 to 594.7 Renfrewshire 530.4 to 539.4 West Dunbartonshire 484.7 to 509.4 LEVEL 1 East Renfrewshire 478.4 to 499.3 Angus 452.7 to 497.4 LEVEL 1 Perth & Kinross 452.1 to 496.2 LEVEL 1 East Dunbartonshire 499.8 to 486.0 Glasgow City 462.5 to 482.7 Fife 438.5 to 451.6 LEVEL 1 East Ayrshire 452.4 to 438.5 Aberdeen City 401.5 to 418.5 LEVEL1 Inverclyde 349.6 to 402.3 LEVEL 1 West Lothian 367.6 to 380.7 LEVEL1 North Lanarkshire 358.0 to 369.7 Falkirk 336.3 to 338.1 LEVEL 1 South Lanarkshire 304.2 to 305.7 Stirling 291.9 to 291.9 Clackmannanshire 287.2 to 275.5 Scottish Borders 268.4 to 260.6 LEVEL 1 North Ayrshire 259.8 to 258.3 Highlands 242.5 to 249.8 LEVEL 1 South Ayrshire 246.0 to 242.4 OFFICIAL LEVEL 1 BLACK Aberdeenshire 214.0 to 222.0 Argyll & Bute 230.6 to 220.1 Dumfries & Galloway 148.5 to 140.4 Moray 72.0 to 77.2 OFFICIAL LEVEL 0 Teuchters in Green Shetland Islands 61.1 to 61.1 Orkney Islands 31.4 to 40.4 Western Isles 11.2 to 26.2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 We are the Covid hotspot of the entire planet with the current mask mandate. I don't think they are doing much tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Clownshoes has told Sturgeon to keep mask wearing otherwise Off the Ball are going to be stuck with a cupboard full of the fucking things as unwanted prizes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 There was a study done by an NHS trust in England which used ffp3 masks for its staff and covid absence was significantly reduced. Where as others which stuck with the surgical masks saw absence generally rise. Surely for masks to have any meaningful impact it either has to be ffp3 or its just a token gesture to appease the Lovejoys? I mean Magrit wearing a mask over her chin and mouth and not covering her nose or Senga who just uses a perspex screen arent really doing anything to help them not get covid? Its just theatre to make people feel nice isnt it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'WellDel Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Only occasionally pop into this thread for a look, but don't post so unsure if this point has been covered. Due my 2nd dose at Ravenscraig tomorrow, and gladly going along for it. Hoping that being fully vaccinated will assist in getting away for a holiday in September, if the easing of restrictions etc continues to go to plan. My worry, however, is another moving of the goalposts. I don't follow the in's and out's too much, but I'm fairly sure I seen that hitting certain numbers of vaccinations is part of the framework. To that end, my brother went for his 2nd jab yesterday and said the Ravenscraig centre was like a ghost town, so much so that he honestly thought something was wrong and the place had been closed. At the 1st, the place was going like a fairground with thousands processed daily and a constant queue morning til night. The nurse/vaccinator he had told him that the majority of people lettered to attend just now are in the 30's age group and the uptake has been particularly poor, with circa 20,000 no shows in the past week. How accurate this is, I don't know and may well be exaggerated, but could a large drop off in expected numbers like this have an impact on the progression out of this shitshow ? Also, with the short shelf life of the vaccine, surely this must be resulting in massive cost/waste ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapMactavish Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: But I am not required to wash my hands to enter a hospital and never have been. I'm not disagreeing about hand washing being a good thing in general though. As for the NHS, would thay have the legal power to enforce mask wearing as a condition of entry once the SG revoke that law? I'd be very surprised if they were to be honest. I know, but one would like to hope you still would. I can’t imagine it being a full on thing where people are forced into it, but I would expect them to be asking folk and stuff. I’ve been pretty much ignoring these “aHm eXeMpT” folk this whole time and will continue to do. Also as someone who has a science background you can’t honestly argue that masks don’t work to reduce respiratory and other infections. There are literally hundreds of scientific papers to the contrary. The issue is and has always been compliance and wearing them properly. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I wonder if places like Iceland and Denmark that have either lifted all restrictions or have set their intentions to, because the vaccines fucking work ridiculously well, have as many bed wetting imbeciles as we have in Scotland/the UK, or if they are generally just much more sensible societies. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, SoapMactavish said: I know, but one would like to hope you still would. I can’t imagine it being a full on thing where people are forced into it, but I would expect them to be asking folk and stuff. I’ve been pretty much ignoring these “aHm eXeMpT” folk this whole time and will continue to do. Also as someone who has a science background you can’t honestly argue that masks don’t work to reduce respiratory and other infections. There are literally hundreds of scientific papers to the contrary. The issue is and has always been compliance and wearing them properly. Some people can be genuinely exempt, not entirely down to “ahm exempt.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said: What ‘sort’ of people? Im intrigued. Just people I disagree with on every other issue, especially Brexiters. Though I only became a lockdown sceptic once second doses were offered to all at risk groups. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapMactavish Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Some people can be genuinely exempt, not entirely down to “ahm exempt.” Oh there certainly can be. But there is almost no physiological reason that folk can’t wear facemasks. There can however be mental health issues that preclude people wearing them. Edited July 4, 2021 by SoapMactavish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Yet we'll be pissing about for another three weeks after down south, and potentially keeping the mask theatre going. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 those comments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Detournement Posted July 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2021 We have a new Covid symptom. Being a beer nursing gimp. 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Less than half of the downloads of the Scottish test and trace app still active. Less than half of Covid app downloads are active https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57715950 public opinion seems to be turning. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Left Back said: Less than half of the downloads of the Scottish test and trace app still active. Less than half of Covid app downloads are active https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57715950 public opinion seems to be turning. The English government have clearly just ditched the QR code scanning because no one is doing it. Any time i'm asked i just point my phone at it for two seconds, there is no way to tell if you actually use the app or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Left Back said: Less than half of the downloads of the Scottish test and trace app still active. Less than half of Covid app downloads are active https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57715950 public opinion seems to be turning. Downloaded it when it became available and deleted it at the start of the year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Okay, thanks. The reason I’m right of centre is that people of the left tend to be far more authoritarian and want to control the lives of the public to a much greater extent. I much prefer a belief in the individual rather than state control. You must be appalled then that your fellow Tories most centralising, power grabbing, authoritarian government in UK history. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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