TheScarf Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 11 hours ago, Abdul_Latif said: That is entirely the case here. People are likely to purposely abstain or just be scunnered with it and not bother. The SNP don’t own the independence movement and whatever momentum they may have picked up in recent years they have absolutely fucked by being so incompetent. There are a lot of independence supporters out there feeling politically homeless at the moment. 11 hours ago, No_Problemo said: Yup - think I’ve now officially moved to the abstaining camp. Today was just a final straw, numerous other things have lead to it too. That's me too I think. I'll obviously vote yes in any indy ref, but for the local and general elections, I probably won't bother for a few years. There's not one party who don't or haven't fucked me off big time in the last 18 months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Two and a bit weeks since England stopped keeping people safe and look at where that's got them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) Lolwut? The SG have absolutely fucked this. These discussions should have taken place already, and everyone should know what is happening. 9th August is 5 days away and hasn't crept up on anyone. Whenever they can't just copy England but do it a bit more carey they absolutely tie themselves in knots. Edited August 4, 2021 by Todd_is_God 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, Pie Of The Month said: So when nightclubs lose any financial support because they are allowed to open but can't make any money the Scottish government can just shrug and say it's not their problem. Sturgeon is obviously holding onto restrictions to trade away when she introduces the vaccine passport. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Credit to Sturgeon for her communication strategy though. Spew shite platitudes at the big press conference with no detail then send your bitch Swinney out to take all the flak when the logic defying details are announced. A master at work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 When folk used to say to me 'Ach all the politicians and parties are lying cunts, I don't vote for anyone', the person was usually a Rangers fans who I thought just didn't want to admit they voted Tory. But I now think maybe they were actually spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 If the SG are going to insist on having mitigations in place, I'd rather they allowed hospitality to open fully but with all customers who aren't fully vaccinated having to provide a negative LFT in the previous 24-48 hours. No masks, table service or bans on vertical drinking. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 TRNSMT festival confirmed to go ahead in September - BBC News fuckin have that devi! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Pie Of The Month said: So when nightclubs lose any financial support because they are allowed to open but can't make any money the Scottish government can just shrug and say it's not their problem. He didn't actually say that about nightclubs, just that there were practical difficulties with mask wearing in clubs and they would be discussing it with the industry today. But he did say standing up drinking by the bar in pubs wouldn't be allowed. Looks to me like the policy is falling apart and there's a big divide of opinion behind the scenes in Government that hadn't been settled when Sturgeon spoke yesterday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, sparky88 said: You already do. The notices they put up in shops along the lines of 'Masks are necessary at all times. Exemptions may apply' mean you don't actually have to wear one. Noone with any authority in the shop is actually going to challenge you. Most people comply with the law and it's currently a legal requirement to wear a face covering so most people don't have an option not to wear one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: He didn't actually say that about nightclubs, just that there were practical difficulties with mask wearing in clubs and they would be discussing it with the industry today. But he did say standing up drinking by the bar in pubs wouldn't be allowed. Looks to me like the policy is falling apart and there's a big divide of opinion behind the scenes in Government that hadn't been settled when Sturgeon spoke yesterday. But we have "moved beyond level 0..." Either we have removed the legal requirement to social distance, or we haven't. An absolute farce. How on earth can you make such a mess of removing restrictions? This is where restrictions for the sake of restrictions gets you. Edited August 4, 2021 by Todd_is_God 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Left Back said: Apply for one of those cards then. Taxpayers money well spent… Indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Pie Of The Month said: So when nightclubs lose any financial support because they are allowed to open but can't make any money the Scottish government can just shrug and say it's not their problem. good god what an awfy c**t of themselves they have made over this Edited August 4, 2021 by effeffsee_the2nd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Leitch coming up on the Radio Scotland phone in.Hoping the vertical drinking farce gets an airing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Donathan said: If the SG are going to insist on having mitigations in place, I'd rather they allowed hospitality to open fully but with all customers who aren't fully vaccinated having to provide a negative LFT in the previous 24-48 hours. No masks, table service or bans on vertical drinking. This is exactly the kind of thinking the Scottish Government are hoping to encourage. Create a problem that doesn't exist so they can fall into line with the rest of Europe on Digital ID. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 They should give venues the power to set their own rules on masks, proof of vax, testing, temperature tests or whatever. There will be a place for everyone. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: They should give venues the power to set their own rules on masks, proof of vax, testing, temperature tests or whatever. There will be a place for everyone. Correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Leitch - we still don't know yet. Seriously is he for real. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elric said: Leitch - we still don't know yet. Seriously is he for real. First question to him. "Why aren't w vaxxing people 24/7". The stupidity of some people never fails to amaze me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Nice to see one of your predictions finally come true after a year of getting things wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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