Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[welshbairn]

1 minute ago, The Moonster said:

If there are vulnerable people who can't take the vaccine now then there will be vulnerable people who can't take the vaccine forever. What level of vaccination are you looking for before masks are dropped? 

Out of interest, how many people are we talking about here who fall into this category?

Until everyone over 16 has been offered a second vaccine say, or the daily rate is under 50/100,000 as a very rough and uninformed ballpark figure. Admittedly the numbers in the unvaccinated vulnerable category will be a lot smaller than originally thought with pregnant women and most immunodeficient people being advised to get jabbed now. I just think extending it for another one or two months in specific high risk and essential places like public transport wouldn't be a big issue for most people.

[Left Back]

4 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Until everyone over 16 has been offered a second vaccine say, or the daily rate is under 50/100,000 as a very rough and uninformed ballpark figure. Admittedly the numbers in the unvaccinated vulnerable category will be a lot smaller than originally thought with pregnant women and most immunodeficient people being advised to get jabbed now. I just think extending it for another one or two months in specific high risk and essential places like public transport wouldn't be a big issue for most people.

There are no current plans to do this so it would basically mean forever at the moment.

With a population in Scotland of about 5.5m this would mean less that 2750 cases per day which we've bettered for a while now.

[Detournement]

Sturgeon said a few ago they were still looking into vaccine passports so surely she will have to update that?

 

[welshbairn]

5 minutes ago, Left Back said:

There are no current plans to do this so it would basically mean forever at the moment.

With a population in Scotland of about 5.5m this would mean less that 2750 cases per day which we've bettered for a while now.

Yeah, got mixed up with the numbers, meant the 7 day rate. Highlands have been under 50/100,000 for nearly the whole pandemic, apart from the most recent wave, expecting we'll be back there in a week or two.

[scottsdad]

1 hour ago, TheScarf said:

If masks are moved to optional, I'll be happy.

[superbigal]

Daily Cases Update:  Day 27 of dropping cases and down another decent 3.02% to 147.7   Infectivity drops  again to 5.7%.  We are now down over 65% from the peak 4 weeks ago.    Dundee is down 83.25% & Edinburgh 76.16% from their peaks with falls every single day.

Huge drops continue in Spain & Netherlands who were like the UK engulfed in a 3rd wave. No other European country is rising in a worrying manner

1st Vaccines goes from  a dismal 1,449 to a still dismal 1,436   Still circa 365,000 to go.  2nd vaccines drop from 17,739 to 16,902

Total Cases Scotland 7 days from 24th July to 30th July  were 8,323 now 8,072 down 3.02%.  Positivity was 5.9%  now 5.7%.   Cases per 100k were 152.3  now 147.7

Home Nations Daily update  :  UK Average 291.8 to 283.8 down 2.74%, England  305.1 to 296.6 down 2.79%, Wales 156.4 to 152.9 down 2.24%, Northern Ireland  497.7 to 486.7 down 2.21%

So that's the UK down for 9 days in a row.  Scotland 27 days, Wales 11 days, England 9 days and Northern Ireland 3 days

Highest in UK now Belfast at 672.1

Latest European figures today. Spain  312.3 to 268.4, France  226.7 to 233.4, Greece  182.7 to 183.1, Ireland 182.2 to 181.7, Portugal 179.0 to 175.9 , Netherlands  154.7 to 141.4, Russia  111.9 to 111.1, Denmark 102.2 to 106.3 No other major European nation above 100. 

Poland, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Albania, Bosnia, Ukraine, North Macedonia,  Czech Rep, Bulgaria, Germany, Latvia, Moldova, Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Sweden, Austria & Norway are all still under 40 cases per 100K. 

Scotland peaks in Wave 3 at 425.1 for 27th June to 3rd July, (UK was 229.9) . Cases that day were 23,222 and positivity 10.8%

Scotland previously peaked in wave 2 at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1)    Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9%  

Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

Inverclyde  227.1 to 224.5  

West Dunbartonshire  212.8 to 216.2 

South Lanarkshire   205.4 to 207.6  Still on the rise 

North Lanarkshire  206.1 to 194.1 Decent 5.82% fall.

West Lothian  184.4 to 185.0  Also on the rise again.

North Ayrshire  167.6 to 174.3  Another riser

Glasgow City  177.5 to 169.9

Clackmannanshire   163.8 to 156.0

Dundee City    162.6 to 153.9  27th day in a row of dropping. 

East Lothian  165.9 to 153.8

Midlothian   158.9 to 152.4  

Stirling   169.0 to 152.0  Great 10% fall after previous rise.

Fife  158.2 to 151.8

Western Isles   162.3 to 150.9  

Dumfries & Galloway    141.6 to 142.3

South Ayrshire    140.0 to 141.8 

Aberdeen City  139.7 to 141.0

Renfrewshire   137.7 to 138.2

City Of Edinburgh  147.6 to 138.0  27th day in a row of dropping. Down 6.50%.

East Dunbartonshire  123.2 to 133.3

East Ayrshire  129.9 to 124.2

East Renfrewshire   113.5 to 122.8 

Falkirk   133.3 to 114.6  Huge fall of over 14% impressive.

Scottish  Borders   114.4 to 108.5

Angus   111.4 to 107.9

Argyll & Bute   115.9 to 105.3

Highlands   109.2 to 100.2

Perth & Kinross   100.7 to 96.1

Aberdeenshire    82.1 to 92.0  

 Moray   95.1 to 87.8

Shetland Islands    83.1 to 74.3

Orkney Islands 26.8 to 8.9

Edited August 2, 2021 by superbigal

[Bairnardo]

Eh..... Wid

[Elixir]

52 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

There are still vulnerable people about who can't take the vaccine and need to use public transport. It's not a big burden on the rest of us to wear them a bit longer, until the daily case rate has dropped right down to say under 50/100,000 and nearly everyone has been vaccinated.

 

35 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Until everyone over 16 has been offered a second vaccine say, or the daily rate is under 50/100,000 as a very rough and uninformed ballpark figure. Admittedly the numbers in the unvaccinated vulnerable category will be a lot smaller than originally thought with pregnant women and most immunodeficient people being advised to get jabbed now. I just think extending it for another one or two months in specific high risk and essential places like public transport wouldn't be a big issue for most people.

So when 'cases' inevitably rise above this mythical '50/100,000' every single autumn/winter until the end of time, we're mandated by law to wear face masks despite being fully vaccinated?

Just shut up. Healthcare capacity is nowhere near threatened, and it's long overdue that this nonsense theatre had its day.

[Thereisalight..]

31 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Sturgeon said a few ago they were still looking into vaccine passports so surely she will have to update that?

 

Probably announce them as the "sweetener" to allow full crowds back at the fitba

[welshbairn]

Hero

 

[The Moonster]

28 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Until everyone over 16 has been offered a second vaccine say, or the daily rate is under 50/100,000 as a very rough and uninformed ballpark figure. Admittedly the numbers in the unvaccinated vulnerable category will be a lot smaller than originally thought with pregnant women and most immunodeficient people being advised to get jabbed now. I just think extending it for another one or two months in specific high risk and essential places like public transport wouldn't be a big issue for most people.

Are young folk over the age of 16 not currently being told to just turn up and get jabbed, rather than being sent out appointments? I haven't paid much attention to who's being vaccinated when but I thought the big push right now was to get young people to show up whenever possible. As you say, the numbers of people who are vulnerable and not jabbed will be absolutely tiny. I was on a train on Saturday and it was rammed, every seat taken, no distancing between groups, but everyone had a mask on, unless you were drinking or eating anything, which was the majority of the train. It's just beyond daft now. 

[Left Back]

3 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Are young folk over the age of 16 not currently being told to just turn up and get jabbed, rather than being sent out appointments? I haven't paid much attention to who's being vaccinated when but I thought the big push right now was to get young people to show up whenever possible. As you say, the numbers of people who are vulnerable and not jabbed will be absolutely tiny. I was on a train on Saturday and it was rammed, every seat taken, no distancing between groups, but everyone had a mask on, unless you were drinking or eating anything, which was the majority of the train. It's just beyond daft now. 

Only over 18's are getting vaccinated by default.  Under 18's are getting jagged if they have some other condition that makes them vulnerable.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

 

 

[ddfg]

Just had direct flights from Edinburgh to the USA scheduled for February 2022 cancelled, can re book via Amsterdam but Delta and United will not be flying direct till at least April next year.

[welshbairn]

Love the way one or two months gets translated to "forever" or "just a few months" on here. 

Edited August 2, 2021 by welshbairn

[TheScarf]

Gone @ spanner.  V retro.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

42 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

1 hour ago, scottsdad said:

Eh..... Wid

m8, looks like Mrs @Shandon Par has popped onto your account again. 

[welshbairn]

Marvellous, they're 'simplifying' the traffic light system.

 

[CALDERON]

3 hours ago, The Moonster said:

Thoroughly enjoyed my visit to Broadwood at the weekend. Few cans on the train, few pints in the pub (with excellent table service), into the ground via a pay gate and sat wherever we liked. I wore a mask until I got to my seat then took it off, no complaints from anyone, good bit of a banter with the stewards and a 3-0 trouncing of Clyde into the bargain. Not once was I asked for my name, home address or phone number. Felt pretty close to a normal day at the football, hopefully a sign of things to come. 

Are cans allowed on trains now? (Genuinely don't know) Game changer. 

[superbigal]

Home Nations Daily update  :  UK Average 291.8 to 283.8 down 2.74%, England  305.1 to 296.6 down 2.79%, Wales 156.4 to 152.9 down 2.24%, Northern Ireland  497.7 to 486.7 down 2.21%

So that's the UK down for 9 days in a row.  Scotland 27 days, Wales 11 days, England 9 days and Northern Ireland 3 days

Highest in UK now Belfast at 672.1

1st Vaccinations  60,000 in the last 2 days of which Scotland was 3,000   We are proportionally only doing half of what England is jabbing  Maybe these free Kebabs, against thinking a vaccine might kill you or have 5G implants is swaying the 18-29 year olds down sarf.