Ludo*1 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 29 minutes ago, Elixir said: The middle classes worked from home ordering parcels from Amazon and making banana bread, while the working classes delivered said parcels and stocked supermarket shelves. Maybe one of you clearly enlightened legends could suggest otherwise? Don't get me wrong, I'm part of the comfortable WFH class, but let's not kid on about what demographic has dragged the arse out of pandemic response. Cheers. State of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Could you get any more tropes into that post? There's a lot of them, that's for sure. 6 minutes ago, Bert Raccoon said: Definitely had the pots and pans out in April 2020. 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Hearts Covid relegation has absolutely ruined Paulo. Oaft, spamming the thread now. The Hertz are sitting third while Dundee scramble for relevance in the relegation zone. The sooner the covid obsession dies the sooner I can waste less time seething about it on this thread and get back travelling, m8. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: It's an interesting one as, whilst the front door to the stadium is in England, the turnstiles are not, meaning that every spectator who entered the stadium did so in Wales. However, common sense needs to apply here, and the ground officially has an English postcode. Thinking back to previous times in the pandemic where household mixing was re-introduced at different times in Scotland and England, If I had a house which had the front door facing a street in England, but the back garden was in England, would my back garden fall under Scottish or English covid rules, and would those who entered the garden through the house (via the front door) be subject to different rules than those who entered through a gate directly in to the back garden? Common sense has already been chucked out the window here with the Welsh police intervening. I’d be curious to understand why they felt the need to intervene initially. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: State of that. Definitely donated to Captain Tom. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 This is the last I'll say on the matter as I genuinely think this is a hugely important thread and don't want it to be sidetracked with petty squabbles (I know) but the last few pages, think certain posters need to take a break. You know who you are Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: It's an interesting one as, whilst the front door to the stadium is in England, the turnstiles are not, meaning that every spectator who entered the stadium did so whilst in Wales. I assume, however, that it is also possible to reach the stands via the front door of the stadium. Common sense needs to apply here, and the ground officially has an English postcode. Thinking back to previous times in the pandemic where household mixing was re-introduced at different times in Scotland and England, If I had a house which had the front door on a street in Scotland, but the back garden was in England, would my back garden fall under Scottish or English covid rules, and would those who entered the garden through the house (via the front door) be subject to different rules than those who entered through a gate directly in to the back garden? Although...if in some parallel universe England had Wales' restrictions and vice versa, I can't help but think Chester would turn their border-straddling into a loophole that allowed a full house. I mean, I'd do it. Whatever is best for the club is the avenue their board/owners should pursue, but they do need to be careful about potential precedents that may adversely affect them in the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I genuinely don’t know how anyone can read Covid Twitter all day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Elixir said: Covid is and always has been a middle class obsession. Says the man who posts about Covid hundreds of times a week. You're as broken as the weirdo doing 3 LFT a day and you don't even realise it. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, The Master said: Although...if in some parallel universe England had Wales' restrictions and vice versa, I can't help but think Chester would turn their border-straddling into a loophole that allowed a full house. I mean, I'd do it. Whatever is best for the club is the avenue their board/owners should pursue, but they do need to be careful about potential precedents that may adversely affect them in the future. I'm pretty sure there is precedent on Chester's side. I'm sure they had crowds back in December 2020 when Wales was in lockdown and England wasn't. As such, I'm not really sure why the Welsh authorities have taken issue with it now and not then. I'd like to think common sense would prevail on this one. It looks overly officious and petty from the outside looking in. This BBC article gives a bit more context: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59920281.amp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Am Featha *****h Nan Clach said: Says the man who posts about Covid hundreds of times a week. You're as broken as the weirdo doing 3 LFT a day and you don't even realise it. We've all been broken by covid to varying degrees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 It's only really been the last few months where the SG has deviated from UKG. Looks like it was a bad move and they are trying to justify this. However the UKG has had a bit of a mare as well. Cummings explaining he was testing his eyesight in Boris's garden. Hancock cheating. Ferguson cheating. Christmas parties. etc. Eat out to help out. Stay alert. Boris in ICU. Kind of feel as though those using the recent stuff the government of the day have got wrong as an argument against independence are not all that really committed to it anyway and are happy for the Eton toffs to continue to Lord it over us. Westminster Tories keeping us right 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Oaft, spamming the thread now. The Hertz are sitting third while Dundee scramble for relevance in the relegation zone. The sooner the covid obsession dies the sooner I can waste less time seething about it on this thread and get back travelling, m8. We ken we're shite though.[emoji6] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I genuinely don’t know how anyone can read Covid Twitter all day. Covid thread shirley? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: I genuinely don’t know how anyone can read Covid Twitter all day. I genuinely don't know how anyone can read this thread anymore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennie Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, The Master said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59920281 There's an international precedent here, with Baarle-Hertog and Baarle-Nassau, where a building is considered to be in the country where the front door is - even if a border runs through it. Surely this should be determined based on whoever Chester FC pay their business rates to - Cheshire or Flintshire. If the former, the entire stadium should be considered as being in England; if the latter, Wales. shouldnt be anything to determine, theres no justification for these state imposed hysterical rules 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Elixir said: Covid is and always has been a middle class obsession. 2 hours ago, Elixir said: The middle classes worked from home ordering parcels from Amazon and making banana bread, while the working classes delivered said parcels and stocked supermarket shelves. Maybe one of you clearly enlightened legends could suggest otherwise? Don't get me wrong, I'm part of the comfortable WFH class, but let's not kid on about what demographic has dragged the arse out of pandemic response. Cheers. I think I get where you are going here. There is a middle class thought that you can shut the schools, work from home and it will all be super and lovely. I have said before that many (mostly middle class) people view the first lockdown the same way that some view the blitz - a jolly good time with everyone banding together and forgetting the tough stuff like the fear and the deaths. For many Covid was all rainbows in Windows, Captain Tom, clapping on Thursdays and forgetting the illness, mental health impacts, domestic violence, lost education, destroyed economy, jobs lost and so on. But the wording of the first post doesn't convey that well. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I think I get where you are going here. There is a middle class thought that you can shut the schools, work from home and it will all be super and lovely. I have said before that many (mostly middle class) people view the first lockdown the same way that some view the blitz - a jolly good time with everyone banding together and forgetting the tough stuff like the fear and the deaths. For many Covid was all rainbows in Windows, Captain Tom, clapping on Thursdays and forgetting the illness, mental health impacts, domestic violence, lost education, destroyed economy, jobs lost and so on. But the wording of the first post doesn't convey that well. I don’t think those things were peculiarly middle-class things though. It's easy to throw in stereotypes when we all know that everyone has had a different experience of the pandemic. Even within the same household the experience may be quite different depending on the job you do etcI think it's dangerous to pin the blame on one group in society - apart from the politicians that is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Remember this classic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just been thinking on LFT’s no longer being free. It really is a turning point and likely signalling the end of the pandemic. However I was expecting it to be in the summer, or after this current wave ended. I think the next step is to move to LFT testing If symptomatic, and continue until you return a negative and can leave isolation. However I’m not intelligent enough to argue that point. On a side note, I’m confused. I’ve had symptoms since last Monday until Wednesday. Then Symptoms ramping up Thursday, I tested negative Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, with a positive yesterday. Is my isolation from Yesterday, or Thursday when symptoms began after a lull, or from Saturday when I registered a positive LFT? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Bairnardo said: In refusing to acknowledge the path of the virus that has led us to Omicron and what that means, and that it is no longer 2019 in terms of virus, or susceptibility to it, Nicola Sturgeon and her followers are sailing very close to being actual science deniers at this point. Even back in March 2020 the IFR was about a tenth of what the models had initially assumed making the UK and most other western country's response to it completely over the top. Only Sweden avoided going down that path. The SNP seemed to think being slightly more mental about it than Boris because we care more was a vote winning strategy after that and may well have been correct on that assumption up to omicron. Now that it really is in typical flu season territory on IFR, they'll be pigeonholed as a bunch of unelectable incompetents by the rational pragmatic portion of the electorate if they keep it up much longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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