superbigal Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Interesting if no doubt controversial for many on here on Masks in Belgium and subsequent policy. I guess the average member of the public have little knowledge of FFP2 . The problem being that FFP2 mask would need to be legally required for the supposed huge benefit in reduced transmission. I'm not sure there is any benefit to reduced transmission now anyway. https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/201389/belgium-increasingly-recommends-ffp2-masks-what-you-need-to-know They have used this German study. https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavirus-masks-risk-protection 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) Re Javid. Very interesting to see it's a numbers game. If the 2/3rds figure is correct it is great news and how could Nicola object to the Science from the UK Health Agency Javid says the change aims to "maximise activity in the economy and education" while also minimising the risk of infection from people leaving isolation. He says data from the UK Health Security Agency shows about two-thirds of positive cases are no longer infectious by end of day five. Edited January 13, 2022 by superbigal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: The SG can say and do whatever they like, but if you only need to look a few miles down the A1 / M74 to see a completely different picture, then they will just look like out of touch tits. NS is very good at telling everyone that the can't just wish covid away. And she's right - it took vaccines, higher levels of population immunity, and a far less severe variant for it to esssntially go away. Maybe it's time for NS to tell her self that she can't just wish it to continue to avoid her having to deal with the actual problems she has avoided addressing for two years. In what universe does 398 people dying with Covid yesterday and 16,000 people in hospital mean that it has essentially gone away? Edited January 13, 2022 by btb -10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, deegee said: Like her or loathe her, Julie Hartley-Brewer was spot on yesterday, when she said that everyone would have wanted Angela Raynor taking on Boris at PMQ in Westminster. Raynor looks like she would boot the fucking shite out you and then some more. Starmer would let you up and want to shake hands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Great move by Javid to reduce isolation down to 5days to bring UK into line with US. What is SG going to do? Just heard the usual waffle from NS.Not sure coming into line with the US on anything Covid related is actually a plus to be honest. Their businesses are being crippled even with 5 day isolation as cases are banzai. One of the major airlines alone announced 3000 staff isolating this week. Think they were over 750k cases yesterday. At those levels 5 or 7 days isn't touching the sides disruption wise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, btb said: In what universe does 398 people dying with Covid yesterday mean that it has essentially gone away? Clown. Of course there's also the fact that bad winter influenza seasons kill '~400 per day' at their peak in winter. Nobody cares. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, btb said: In what universe does 398 people dying with Covid yesterday mean that it has essentially gone away? 398 people didn't die of Covid yesterday. 398 deaths were registered yesterday. Tuesdays are usually "spikes" in deaths because registry offices are closed at the weekends. Rather than take a single day in isolation you're better looking at the 7 day average. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, Elixir said: Clown. Of course there's also the fact that bad winter influenza seasons kill '~400 per day' at their peak in winter. Nobody cares. Yeah, I remember you saying it was all but over back in August 30,000 deaths ago (with a funny gif to boot) - happy to be a clown if the criteria is I'm not you! -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennie Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, Left Back said: 398 people didn't die of Covid yesterday. 398 deaths were registered yesterday. Tuesdays are usually "spikes" in deaths because registry offices are closed at the weekends. Rather than take a single day in isolation you're better looking at the 7 day average. rather than obsessing over virus graphs youre better ignoring it and getting on wi your day like we all did pre hysteria 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 19 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Great move by Javid to reduce isolation down to 5days to bring UK into line with US. What is SG going to do? Just heard the usual waffle from NS. Not sure coming into line with the US on anything Covid related is actually a plus to be honest. Their businesses are being crippled even with 5 day isolation as cases are banzai. One of the major airlines alone announced 3000 staff isolating this week. Think they were over 750k cases yesterday. At those levels 5 or 7 days isn't touching the sides disruption wise. It's worse than it ever was under the bad orange man. But you won't hear a peep out of CNN or NBC etc. about it. They are in a very bad position at the moment compared with Europe. A lot more people in the age-risk groups that are unvaccinated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Looks to me like all the covid measures are being gradually wound down now in England. NS will try to keep it going as long as possible, but I can’t see the ‘new normal’ schtick working for much longer when we have actual normality over the border with no issues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, btb said: Yeah, I remember you saying it was all but over back in August 30,000 deaths ago (with a funny gif to boot) - happy to be a clown if the criteria is I'm not you! Oh wow, really, people have died in the past four or five months? What a revelation this is. I mean, truly! Just wait until you find out that ~650,000 people die in the UK every single year! Is it immortality you're after? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, btb said: In what universe does 398 people dying with Covid yesterday and 16,000 people in hospital mean that it has essentially gone away? The state of this. How many of the 398 died because of Covid not with Covid? And same question for the hospital numbers? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) The thing is, it kind of is over. Bit of an awkward one for the 'no more deaths from anything ever again' mob, granted. Just because the Scottish Government are sanctimonious bed shitters doesn't change that fact. England have got through the winter without shutting things down. Terrific stuff! Edited January 13, 2022 by Elixir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Graft Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Having just watched FMQ and her latest car crash when is someone going to remind her that this is Scotland we are living in and not England? I am sure that every leisure and hospitality business that is about to go to the wall will be glad that they are here and not in England as she constantly pointed out. At least she managed to get her silly wee laughs and condescending looks in. What is she going to blame when we are free from Covid? What will be left of the country? How can anyone still believe that she is the person to lead the country to Independence? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Two weeks and Scotland's COVID jail term will be down to 5 days. The Multi National businesses will be putting pressure on as they won't be happy losing staff for an extra 2 days in Scotland for purely dogmatic reasons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, Glennie said: rather than obsessing over virus graphs youre better ignoring it and getting on wi your day like we all did pre hysteria f**k that.. Would involve doing some work. 5 o'clock is the time for getting on with your day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 There's Next entering the race to the bottom. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59963700 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 FYI. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Covid good news and progress towards normal: Not for the likes of us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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