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27 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

I actually feel safer holidaying abroad, got a wee villa in Turkey last year, didnt see a soul for 10 days except at the supermarket and the flight was empty, contrast that with blackpool beach or pontins, I know where i’d rather be. 

And I thought I was antisocial!

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3 minutes ago, Detournement said:

This might not be a popular view but if the prospect of a domestic holiday genuinely upsets someone then they are a sad case. As long as you have good company and some decent food and drink then you should be able to have a good time anywhere. 

The current restrictions on socialising are far, far worse than restrictions on holidays could ever be. 

^^^ enjoys a week away in a caravan

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With Highland and East Lothian down below 100 cases per 100k, several other areas getting close to that, are we nearing a position where the reopening of nurseries and primary schools might be up for discussion soon?  Aberdeen City's numbers are the lowest they've been since early December, and quite a few other areas seem to be similar.

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8 minutes ago, Detournement said:

if the prospect of a domestic holiday genuinely upsets someone then they are a sad case.

I don't think not being terribly excited at the prospect of being ripped off even more than usual in a grey, run down, UK seaside resort in the pishing rain makes someone a sad case tbh.

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1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

I don't think not being terribly excited at the prospect of being ripped off even more than usual in a grey, run down, UK seaside resort in the pishing rain makes someone a sad case tbh.

City break in Gdansk, Stockholm, or Rome, or a few days... where exactly in Britain?

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3 hours ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said:

The holidays/travel question is an interesting one I always find. Personally going abroad is way down my list of priorities for once things are "back to normal" tbh. I don't really understand the mindset of people who are at this stage of the game gambling and booking holidays abroad for this summer, or those who are champing at the bit to do so. Aside obviously from those who wish to visit family etc, which you can definitely understand. But just in order to spend some time in a resort/on the beach? Don't get it. Different strokes for different folks I suppose. 

At the same time I think it's wrong to talk disparagingly about "Benidorm" or "Torremolinos" or whatever - it is a bit snobbish really. It's already been discussed a bit in this thread with talk of an "underclass" and the like - we seem unable to talk about behaviour we don't like without attaching class signifiers to it. 

Millions and millions of people in the UK travel abroad on a regular basis for holidays, for work, to visit family. I don't agree with the perception that travelling abroad is somehow an exceptional indulgence. 

It isn't. It's very much part of 'normal life' in the 21st century. 

Now, I'm not saying that we should ignore any necessary restrictions. Common sense dictates that at this moment in time we all have to cut down on foreign travel. 

However, I just can't get my head around the mindset (as you put it), that we should all abandon the idea of foreign travel anymore than we should abandon the idea of going out to restaurants, visiting friends, having parties etc etc. 

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Some psycho on Channel 4 now claiming that vaccinating literally 'the world' is the new goalpost shifting benchmark for returning to normal, as part of his batshit mental, zero-Covid drivel.

That's right, we can't bin social distancing or travel abroad until that last tribal village in Afghanistan is protected against a virus that we're (soon to be) vaccinated against!

While I do not subscribe to Covid conspiracy theories I am finding it increasingly difficult to criticise those who feel that there is an ulterior motive to this shutdown. The absolute fruit loop experts are not contributing to a rational understanding of risk at all.

 

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8 minutes ago, Elixir said:

City break in Gdansk, Stockholm, or Rome, or a few days... where exactly in Britain?

Depends what you're looking for. Bristol is a good centre for most tastes. Leeds or York. London. 

For beaches etc go to Cornwall.

I enjoy UK travel but still like going abroad, ideally I do both.

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1 hour ago, Detournement said:

I don't doubt that Sturgeon is still in thrall to zero Covid idiots but when hospitalisations and deaths drop off to the levels of last June (which should happen earlier this year) then there will be no argument to keep things closed. Social distancing in the summer does nothing to prevent infection in the winter, that is clear now. 

 

No, but it might help stop it spreading in the summer.

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10 minutes ago, virginton said:

Some psycho on Channel 4 now claiming that vaccinating literally 'the world' is the new goalpost shifting benchmark for returning to normal, as part of his batshit mental, zero-Covid drivel.

That's right, we can't bin social distancing or travel abroad until that last tribal village in Afghanistan is protected against a virus that we're (soon to be) vaccinated against!

While I do not subscribe to Covid conspiracy theories I am finding it increasingly difficult to criticise those who feel that there is an ulterior motive to this shutdown. The absolute fruit loop experts are not contributing to a rational understanding of risk at all.

Do these bams not realise that the developing world are going to reach herd immunity through natural infection long before vaccinations will make a difference? Entire continents, i.e. South America and Africa, and a country of over a billion people, India, couldn't give a f**k about it.

These are meant to be intelligent people and they are peddling unobtainable fantasies. I genuinely cannot believe it.

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39 minutes ago, Detournement said:

This might not be a popular view but if the prospect of a domestic holiday genuinely upsets someone then they are a sad case. As long as you have good company and some decent food and drink then you should be able to have a good time anywhere. 

The current restrictions on socialising are far, far worse than restrictions on holidays could ever be. 

I baulk at paying substantial sums for (decent) UK breaks and I very very rarely do, that said just as soon as I can I'll be heading to Skye and a long weekend of nothing, and drinking.  the second half of the year will hopefully be spent in several European destinations, none of which are resorts.

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1 hour ago, Elixir said:

Is this treatment at all related to what potentially led to the mutation down in Kent? I can't remember if it was monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma.

Easy to get the two mixed up...

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