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13 minutes ago, HibsFan said:

No fault of your own and if everyone else is doing it then you're left with no choice, but just using it as a jumping off point to repeat something I've already said. Being required (or seeing so many others do it that you feel compelled) to book for a pub is a miserable existence of scheduled, organised fun and part of this "New Normal" that I despise.

If I want to decide at 8pm on a Thursday that I want to go out and meet some pals in a pub, I shouldn't need to have booked a month ago to make that a reality.

Thankfully London has plenty of fantastic independent boozers who would simply laugh and hang up the phone if you tried to book a table with them.

They'll be getting my custom later this month for sure. 2027579227_JackSloshed.png.918dc002f8b936a02ee8a04f9bf8a1b0.png

Any recommendations for somewhere to book or just turn up for the England Scotland game in June? I'm going but highly doubt there will be any fan zones where we can watch the game outside so will most likely be a scramble for the pubs with TVs. 

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Just now, Scosha said:

Any recommendations for somewhere to book or just turn up for the England Scotland game in June? I'm going but highly doubt there will be any fan zones where we can watch the game outside so will most likely be a scramble for the pubs with TVs. 

try the Globe on Baker St.  they'll make you feel welcome

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There hasn't been nearly enough fanfare or appreciation of them and it'll only be once we can properly take stock that it'll kick in how astonishing the advances and achievements have been.
As is often the case in life, the ones more interested in getting themselves noticed and who shout the loudest get the high praise, rather than those who get their heads down and do the actual work behind the scenes.
It must be incredibly infuriating the scientists who created the vaccine which is performing better than probably even they could have hoped for, yet we have absolute roasters like Devi Sridhar blatantly lying about how good it is to try and keep herself even remotely relevant that bit longer.
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It must be incredibly infuriating the scientists who created the vaccine which is performing better than probably even they could have hoped for, yet we have absolute roasters like Devi Sridhar blatantly lying about how good it is to try and keep herself even remotely relevant that bit longer.
AZ especially who have done something astounding, pledged to sell it for cost and have still been caught in the middle of all manner of shit slinging
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3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:
7 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:
It must be incredibly infuriating the scientists who created the vaccine which is performing better than probably even they could have hoped for, yet we have absolute roasters like Devi Sridhar blatantly lying about how good it is to try and keep herself even remotely relevant that bit longer.

AZ especially who have done something astounding, pledged to sell it for cost and have still been caught in the middle of all manner of shit slinging

Would love to see them taking legal action against devi and the liars. 

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14 minutes ago, Scosha said:

Any recommendations for somewhere to book or just turn up for the England Scotland game in June? I'm going but highly doubt there will be any fan zones where we can watch the game outside so will most likely be a scramble for the pubs with TVs. 

I'm biased but I really hope Quinn's in Camden (where London Hibs watch televised games) will be back open, as it's wonderfully old school and a good atmosphere when there's a big game on.

There are some hilarious Trip Advisor reviews of horrified gentrifiers not liking the macabre decor:

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This one was actually posted on the day Hibs won the Scottish Cup, so I like to imagine that it was written by a very unimpressed London Bear who got lost.

Oh and, if it wasn't obvious from the above, they won't be taking bookings.

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Would love to see them taking legal action against devi and the liars. 
And in the context (public health, medically approved, publicly available test data and approval) they would absolutely win against people in COVID response positions saying really harmful and stupid lies (Hiya Devi, f**k off and take Jason with you)
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Anyone catch what that fuckwit Leitch said on Clyde 1? I had a look on Twitter but all I can see is that he said something along the lines of “look what happened in France when they opened up too soon”. Now if he’s actually comparing us with France then he’s stooped even lower than I thought was possible. A nation that has written off a vaccine that works and is dealing with the consequences of that is not in anyway shape or form similar to us. 

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4 hours ago, Billy Jean King said:

I'm not saying the public are right or wrong but as it stands thousands of people a day are actively looking to be tested. Couple that with the T&T report findings in England today that claims only 1 in 5 with symptoms in England actually get a test which seems at odds with the number actually being tested. Presumably Scotland isn't too dissimilar.

I think you might be surprised just how deep the scepticism over a return to even a "new normal" is going to be amongst the public in general. We might move in circles that want to get back to how things were but a big old chunk of the population have been changed by this and for a good number it may be for keeps regardless of how alien a concept that may seem to those who are gagging for it to fully end. There's nowt as queer as folk as the old saying goes more so in a country like the UK where in general the population are conservative with a capital C. Whether society in general bends to that cohort will depend solely on how big it proves to be but you can see simply from anecdotal evidence on here how many people have been scarred by this, it might just prove too many for them simply to be classified as cranks and cast asunder.

 

2 hours ago, Billy Jean King said:
3 hours ago, Gaz said:
If folk are sceptic over returning to even a 'new normal' then that's absolutely fine. They can choose to be like that. However that should not in any way impact the ability of my mates and I to go to the football, have a game of fives or spontaneously decide to go for a night in the pub or snooker hall.
When the vulnerable groups have all been vaccinated and thus Covid has been reduced to something that will affect the country no more than a bad cold / flu season would then all restrictions should be lifted.

I'm not saying for a minute it should or will but I can see some businesses being adapted to exploit it.

 

As has been said by others, people can do what they want, so long as it's faded into the background and not impacting the daily life of others wanting to get on. Once all this pantomime is taken out of law, that's it over. Businesses looking to cater to hypochondriacs will soon be left behind.

 

22 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:
1 hour ago, anotherchance said:
There hasn't been nearly enough fanfare or appreciation of them and it'll only be once we can properly take stock that it'll kick in how astonishing the advances and achievements have been.
As is often the case in life, the ones more interested in getting themselves noticed and who shout the loudest get the high praise, rather than those who get their heads down and do the actual work behind the scenes.

It must be incredibly infuriating the scientists who created the vaccine which is performing better than probably even they could have hoped for, yet we have absolute roasters like Devi Sridhar blatantly lying about how good it is to try and keep herself even remotely relevant that bit longer.

I was really hoping for Sarah Gilbert, Andrew Pollard, or someone else from the Oxford group to call her out on her disinformation.

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47 minutes ago, HibsFan said:

No fault of your own and if everyone else is doing it then you're left with no choice, but just using it as a jumping off point to repeat something I've already said. Being required (or seeing so many others do it that you feel compelled) to book for a pub is a miserable existence of scheduled, organised fun and part of this "New Normal" that I despise.

If I want to decide at 8pm on a Thursday that I want to go out and meet some pals in a pub, I shouldn't need to have booked a month ago to make that a reality.

Thankfully London has plenty of fantastic independent boozers who would simply laugh and hang up the phone if you tried to book a table with them.

They'll be getting my custom later this month for sure. 2027579227_JackSloshed.png.918dc002f8b936a02ee8a04f9bf8a1b0.png

Yup - the lack of spontaneity over all aspects of life being caused by this shit is tragic.

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2 minutes ago, Scosha said:

Anyone catch what that fuckwit Leitch said on Clyde 1? I had a look on Twitter but all I can see is that he said something along the lines of “look what happened in France when they opened up too soon”. Now if he’s actually comparing us with France then he’s stooped even lower than I thought was possible. A nation that has written off a vaccine that works and is dealing with the consequences of that is not in anyway shape or form similar to us. 

We don't call him clownshoes for nothing. 

This being the same France that has averaged 20k cases a day since mid January and had a much less restrictive lockdown, in addition to being well behind in the vaccine rollout. 

Can't wait until that wee nyaff is off the airwaves for good. Hopefully no later than the end of summer. 

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9 minutes ago, Scosha said:

Anyone catch what that fuckwit Leitch said on Clyde 1? I had a look on Twitter but all I can see is that he said something along the lines of “look what happened in France when they opened up too soon”. Now if he’s actually comparing us with France then he’s stooped even lower than I thought was possible. A nation that has written off a vaccine that works and is dealing with the consequences of that is not in anyway shape or form similar to us. 

Does anyone have a link to his interview. 

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1 hour ago, Michael W said:

Matt Hancock now joining in with long covid scare day. 

 

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Again, it's really important to stress there's no grand conspiracy at play here and I don't believe in a "plandemic" or whatever nonsense the tinfoil hat brigade go on about.

However, this pivot to Long COVID was so utterly and tediously predictable that I've just searched the phrase in my messages to discovered that - lo and behold - a mate called it happening three months ago.

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Feels to me that it's more "after failing to keep its citizens safe, the government tried to cover its arse by bringing in loads of serious-looking-but-ultimately-not-effective measures, which they now need to keep in place/justify to cover their arse for that decision too".

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3 minutes ago, HibsFan said:

Again, it's really important to stress there's no grand conspiracy at play here and I don't believe in a "plandemic" or whatever nonsense the tinfoil hat brigade go on about.

However, this pivot to Long COVID was so utterly and tediously predictable that I've just searched the phrase in my messages to discovered that - lo and behold - a mate called it happening three months ago.

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Feels to me that it's more "after failing to keep its citizens safe, the government tried to cover its arse by bringing in loads of serious-looking-but-ultimately-not-effective measures, which they now need to keep in place/justify to cover their arse for that decision too".

So much of this has been governments scrambling to make it look like they are doing something and are 'in control of the virus', rather than simply communicating limitations and degrees of risk.

A complete and utter charade throughout.

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