Mark Connolly Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, hk blues said: Won't employees be looking for allowances for WFH if it becomes a permanent feature though? The companies I worked for in the past (15 years ago) always paid allowance for home-based employees. If everyone is working at home, why would there be an allowance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, hk blues said: Won't employees be looking for allowances for WFH if it becomes a permanent feature though? The companies I worked for in the past (15 years ago) always paid allowance for home-based employees. There is a tax relief you can claim. now huge but better than nothing. https://www.gov.uk/tax-relief-for-employees/working-at-home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Heading straight out from the office for a few jars and/or a scran is one of the simpler, enjoyable sides of life. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 The same is happening here. We have had 2 or 3 hilarious consultation sessions which are to give staff the impression that they actually have any say in this. I'll be in some sort of hybrid situation as well, office-based 2 days, home for 3 which I can just about accept. The sessions were laughable with folk trying to convince us that every communication issue could be resolved through MS Teams, but ignoring that our IT infrastructure is shite and has fallen over f**k knows how many times in the last year. The icing on the cake was my link to a video appeal tribunal crashing several times thanks to our shite provision, and me posting an absolute rant about it on our work social platform. This caught the attention of IT's Head of Service who had a total meltdown and complained to my manager. I'm not surprised all our senior managers love WFH. They have plenty of space and perform almost exclusively back office functions. If you're dealing with the public it's much harder. One of our clerical assistants has been WFH since last March in the kitchen of her 2 bed flat with 2 young kids at home and was at the end of her tether until the safety lot allowed office access again. Total nonsense. I have to say our ICT solutions have been pretty decent but agree 100% re management home working, money for old rope springs to mind. It's as others said the people living in 1 bed apartments with no actual space to WFH or those who struggle with the isolation and lack of social interaction that are the big worry here. They are being shafted. Also annoying that we are being given no real explanation why. Presumably all the office space we used to occupy will be sold but no real confirmation of that. Personally I don't have that many years to go so it's not the mental dunt that it would be had I been 10 years or more younger but I feel for them in that situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, hk blues said: Won't employees be looking for allowances for WFH if it becomes a permanent feature though? The companies I worked for in the past (15 years ago) always paid allowance for home-based employees. I'm sure that will continue when it becomes more common place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Elixir said: Heading straight out from the office for a few jars and/or a scran is one of the simpler, enjoyable sides of life. Coming home at 11, pished and with a kebab, with the top button if your shirt open and your tie loosely round your neck. Glorious. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Coming home at 11, pished and with a kebab, with the top button if your shirt open and your tie loosely round your neck. Glorious.Is 11 the norm now, was 2am in my "day". Thursday night a fav at the old Piv or Bobby Jones in Ayr 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) I'll happily never have to commute into work again, no more cancelled trains, no more walking in the rain and getting soaked before I've even stepped into work and now I finish at 5pm on a Friday and have a cold beer in hand by five past. Might not suit everyone but I love home working Edited May 21, 2021 by Bert Raccoon 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: If everyone is working at home, why would there be an allowance? Everyone won't be working from home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, Left Back said: There is a tax relief you can claim. now huge but better than nothing. https://www.gov.uk/tax-relief-for-employees/working-at-home Yes, we had the same discussions in the past but it became so complex trying to ascertain what costs could be covered and what proportion thereof that we went down the allowance route. Sure, it cost the company money but was a good retention tool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, hk blues said: Everyone won't be working from home. It was a generalisation, but if the shift is towards WFH rather than a traditional office base, an allowance for working from home won't be required. I'd fully expect to see the lower paid staff WFH, with managerial level based in the office, and receiving a stipend under the guise of "travel expenses" or something similar in order to ensure the money saved is kept at the top end 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Schools in Tullibody, Clackmannanshire, shitting down due to "cases" https://www.alloaadvertiser.com/news/19317613.tullibody-schools-nursery-close-covid-19-cases-rise/ Quote SCHOOLS in Tullibody are returning to remote learning from today until the end of the month following a spike in Covid-19 cases in the area. Banchory, Abercromby and St Bernadette’s primary schools, as well as Tulach Nursery, started the temporary move to remote learning today, Thursday, May 20 and will return on Monday, May 31. The library at Tullibody South Campus will also be closed temporarily during this period. A notice sent to parents, seen by the Advertiser, states the decision was advised by NHS Public Health following an increase of Covid-19 cases in the Tullibody community. Children who attend any of the above schools or nursery are advised to self-isolate and siblings who attend different schools should not attend school until Monday, May 24. In addition, they are being asked to take a Covid-19 PCR test and should only return to their school once they have a negative result. Children who attend schools at the Tullibody South Campus and their siblings should also not attend sports clubs or organisations until they have a negative PCR test. Dr Graham Foster, director for public health for NHS Forth Valley, said: “Specialist testing suggests that some of the local cases we are seeing in Tullibody may be linked to cases in Glasgow City. “We are taking strong action now to prevent further spread of Covid-19. “We would encourage everyone who lives in or works in Tullibody to get a Covid-19 PCR test even if they don't have symptoms. “By taking the right measures at this earlier stage, we have the best chance of achieving our aim of staying within Level 2." Cllr Graham Lindsay, the council’s spokesperson for education, said: “We know that this is a challenging time for parents and carers of children at the schools affected but the schools all have well developed contingency arrangements in place for remote learning and all families have been contacted by the school to update them on the action being taken. Jesus wept. Clackmannanshire's rates go up and down quickly as there is such a small population but, this is ridiculous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I'd sooner put up with commutes and a bit of rain, and be living life, rather than working and existing within the same four walls. Granted, flexible working after a return to normal life will probably enhance both experiences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: It was a generalisation, but if the shift is towards WFH rather than a traditional office base, an allowance for working from home won't be required. I'd fully expect to see the lower paid staff WFH, with managerial level based in the office, and receiving a stipend under the guise of "travel expenses" or something similar in order to ensure the money saved is kept at the top end Conversely, you could argue that as WFH becomes more commonplace companies will have to develop better policies around it and financial incentives may be part of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, hk blues said: Conversely, you could argue that as WFH becomes more commonplace companies will have to develop better policies around it and financial incentives may be part of that. I obviously take your point, but I also think one of these scenarios is far more likely than the other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Predictions for later: Glasgow to remain at level 3 Moray to drop to level 2 East Renfrewshire to rise to level 3 -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Predictions for later: Glasgow to remain at level 3 Moray to drop to level 2 East Renfrewshire to rise to level 3Aye sounds about right. Glasgow and East Renfrewshire both to drop to L2 from next Friday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, hk blues said: Conversely, you could argue that as WFH becomes more commonplace companies will have to develop better policies around it and financial incentives may be part of that. There were reports of some companies that were looking at reducing pay as a result. Think was Facebook that was looking to set "market rate" based on loactaion since they won't require their employees to be in expensive San Francisco. If they live there they'll be paid what they are, but if they move away they will get less. The savings will be going straight into the board's pockets in most instances. For many the financial incentive has already happened - no overpriced season ticket. Edited May 21, 2021 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Aye sounds about right. Glasgow and East Renfrewshire both to drop to L2 from next Friday.Would love to see this but someone was speculating on radio this morning about a further 2 or 3 weeks in the doghouse for Glasgow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Michael W said: There were reports of some companies that were looking at reducing pay as a result. Think was Facebook that was looking to set "market rate" based on loactaion since they won't require their employees to be in expensive San Francisco. If they live there they'll be paid what they are, but if they move away they will get less. The savings will be going straight into the board's pockets in most instances. Aye workers in Manilla or Hyderabad will be cheaper than American or British workers doing WFH. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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