MP_MFC Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 BBC reporting only 20 more people in England’s hospitals today compared with more than 2000 admitted on Wednesday. They didn’t think it might be worthwhile to point out that Wednesday was probably the first proper report in about 5 days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 That's a brilliant effort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, oaksoft said: An excellent reason why covid patients should never have been receiving treatment in a general hospital. Another failing by respective governments. In theory yes, but in reality, where could they have been treated? If it's really a failing, its by every government, except maybe China, and who knows what they did to deal with the problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: That's a brilliant effort Can't believe we are third highest in the world, unreal effort! A nice way to start the new year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 57 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Speciment date data is also very interesting. That the 27th and 28th are absolutely miles ahead of the preceding days I very much doubt is a coincidence. A combination of reduced availability of tests, coupled with people not wanting to miss Christmas over a cold, has undoubtably skewed figures a bit. Day 2 cases by specimen date are currently 10,000 lower than the previous day - adding the equivalent number (if today's results were replicated) to it would still leave it around 5,000 short of matching it. Of course, we now need to wait five days for these figures to be updated again, so can read nothing more from it till then. This perhaps shows what I mean better than words 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Brazil Forever Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: I just realised that it's not on - last year's was the final show. Thank f**k. Normally we'll watch Jools' Hootenanny - but Ed fucking Sheeran and Lulu are the stars this year. Hearing Lulu's fake posh accent is like hearing nails down a blackboard to me. And I can't stand Sheeran bland shite The Beeb spent 10 minutes at lunch time (it felt like every minute of 10) bumming up the Pet Shop Boys for tonite. You might actually prefer Jools. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: BBC reporting only 20 more people in England’s hospitals today compared with more than 2000 admitted on Wednesday. They didn’t think it might be worthwhile to point out that Wednesday was probably the first proper report in about 5 days. Nearly 1000 more in hospital today compared to yesterday, at least according to the governments own coronavirus dashboard? 31-12-2021 12,395 30-12-2021 11,452 In the last two days England has recorded over 2000 admissions (up to the 29th). London has gone from just over 100 admissions per day at the start of the month to 450-500. Scotland's last date for admissions was the 27th and it had a bit of a jump to 111. It's really England that's seeing the biggest rise in hospital numbers so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapMactavish Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, s_dog said: In theory yes, but in reality, where could they have been treated? If it's really a failing, its by every government, except maybe China, and who knows what they did to deal with the problem. You can’t treat folk with what is essentially a complex multi-system disease process in folk actually ill with it in a dedicated ‘Covid Hospital’. You need access to all the specialism’s on site if there is a problem. Confused and falls and breaks hip - Needs Orthopaedics. Has a stroke secondary to Covid -Needs Stroke team input. etc etc It was one of the major issues we highlighted at the Louisa Jordan was folk would have to be transferred back to another hospital if they developed any weird complications. If it was purely a respiratory illness that didn’t cause any other problems it would be great. But its sadly not. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: This perhaps shows what I mean better than words I'm sure I read that they'd managed to catch up on a bit of the backlog with the figures on the 27/28th too. Think it'll probably be the end of next week or even the week after before the figures are less skewed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 hours ago, superbigal said: Scot gov must want max jag numbers today. Walk in centre open for 12-15 year olds at St Andrews today. Great get young lad his second and let's jet of to Spain half term. What is it with public sector ? Tea break time. Why does everyone take them at the same time. Ps there are no seats Heavy MAH BIN'S BEEN MISSED vibes from this guy 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: That's a brilliant effort Absolutely, it’s just a shame that when it comes to “being seen to do something” the SG feel the need to bring in restrictions rather than acknowledge that the successful vaccine programme is the epitome of “doing something” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 40 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: That's a brilliant effort It's a good effort but the claim on offering an appointment is actually shite unless you count sending a text message as being invited. However when the wife and I looked to book ours last week, the 4th January was the earliest available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, SoapMactavish said: You can’t treat folk with what is essentially a complex multi-system disease process in folk actually ill with it in a dedicated ‘Covid Hospital’. You need access to all the specialism’s on site if there is a problem. Confused and falls and breaks hip - Needs Orthopaedics. Has a stroke secondary to Covid -Needs Stroke team input. etc etc It was one of the major issues we highlighted at the Louisa Jordan was folk would have to be transferred back to another hospital if they developed any weird complications. If it was purely a respiratory illness that didn’t cause any other problems it would be great. But its sadly not. Exactly. In theory it makes some sense, keep all covid patients in one hospital and all other patients in another, no problem with infecting all the non-Covid patients then. But what country in the world has either the spare hospitals or the additional staff that it would need. In the UK we don't even have the staff for the hospitals we've got. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, SoapMactavish said: You can’t treat folk with what is essentially a complex multi-system disease process in folk actually ill with it in a dedicated ‘Covid Hospital’. You need access to all the specialism’s on site if there is a problem. Confused and falls and breaks hip - Needs Orthopaedics. Has a stroke secondary to Covid -Needs Stroke team input. etc etc It was one of the major issues we highlighted at the Louisa Jordan was folk would have to be transferred back to another hospital if they developed any weird complications. If it was purely a respiratory illness that didn’t cause any other problems it would be great. But its sadly not. Your examples are not symptoms of Covid though, so how many of the "for Covid" admissions are going to need a stroke team or orthopaedic care? Is that not like saying you can't have minor ailments clinics incase someone has a heart attack whilst having their skin tag removed? Edited December 31, 2021 by strichener 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Nicked from travelling tabby 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapMactavish Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, strichener said: Your examples are not symptoms of Covid though, so how many of the "for Covid" admissions are going to need a stroke team or orthopaedic care? Is that not like saying you can't have minor ailments clinics incase someone has a heart attack whilst having their skin tag removed? I mean, Delirium and Clotting problems in particular are massive problems with people who are clinically ill enough with Covid to be in hospital. The point I’m making is there is no sense in putting all the Covid patients in one hospital, then having to move them to a non-covid hospital when something goes wrong with their treatment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 That's a brilliant effortCredit where its due. One of the things we've been consistently good at and got right has been the vaccination programme.It's a shame that clearly hasn't translated to getting complete normality back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, anotherchance said: Absolutely, it’s just a shame that when it comes to “being seen to do something” the SG feel the need to bring in restrictions rather than acknowledge that the successful vaccine programme is the epitome of “doing something” This surely puts them in a position, though. Given much of the reasoning for restrictions was to slow the spread as they rolled vaccines out, they surely have to now lift them on the 17th. Anything else and they are essentially saying they don't work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, strichener said: It's a good effort but the claim on offering an appointment is actually shite unless you count sending a text message as being invited. However when the wife and I looked to book ours last week, the 4th January was the earliest available. I hadn't considered this but surely they wouldn't have the gall to use the very same play on words they eviscerated the Tories for last January? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I hadn't considered this but surely they wouldn't have the gall to use the very same play on words they eviscerated the Tories for last January?It's only not a competition when the Scot Gov aren't in first place. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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