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[alta-pete]

Has always been so in my view. But before Covid it was the bogeymen in WM that she was scoffing at so her fanboys lapped it up. It’s not so much fun now though that the mammy sass is aimed squarely at her subjects. 

[Elixir]

2 hours ago, itzdrk said:

Aw sick have all the rich countries finally helped out the poorer ones with vaccines? 

The WHO may wish it so, but a pandemic does not require vaccination of every part of the world to end. Natural infection will finish the job in areas without it, whether that's right or wrong. Is there even still supply issues, or is it a simple (inconvenient) fact that most people in Africa have much bigger concerns than covid?

 

47 minutes ago, Patrick Noubissie said:

That ONS link there will be the justification given for the last few weeks. Rightly or wrongly, the fact that Scotland, Wales and NI exactly match each other and England is on it's own with a worse rate will be the argument that restrictions have worked. With any luck as a get out excuse to roll them back, rather than to say they work and need to stay.

Just because the ONS data showed 1 in 15 people in England had covid at the peak compared to 1 in 20 in Scotland still does not justify the Scottish Government's introduction of restrictions. Such a small difference shows it was *not* an acceptable trade off. Then there is the fact that Scotland may likely have marginally less spread naturally, due to having more people living in rural and remote communities, etc.

Edited January 12, 2022 by Elixir

[buchan30]

[Jupiter Jazz]

7 hours ago, alta-pete said:

Has always been so in my view. But before Covid it was the bogeymen in WM that she was scoffing at so her fanboys lapped it up. It’s not so much fun now though that the mammy sass is aimed squarely at her subjects. 

I've yet to see a likeable SNP MP or MSP, they pretty much all come across as arrogant or condescending to me. Sturgeon in particular though right enough. 

[Zetterlund]

Not sure if this has been posted already. Hopefully the first of many, although I wont hold my breath.

 

[Wee-Bey]

 

[Ron Aldo]

 

So rather than smoking cigars we need to start smoking joints?

Sounds fair.

[Hard Graft]

10 hours ago, Empty It said:

10 hours ago, Savage Henry said:

Go back two years.  I’d imagine she’d have had a very high approval rate, even at the end of the first full proper lock down.   In reality, she’s had an absolute nightmare of the last six months.  Her state-knows-best leanings occasionally crept out, but folk bought into it (minimum alcohol pricing, sugar tax, etc, were largely supported on here).  She’s essentially banking on SNP voters to buy into the cult and ignore the last period of time.   It’s the folk who regard the SNP as a vehicle to bring about social justice who will leave the party in droves.  The folk who see independence as the be all and end all may continue to give her the benefit of the doubt.  It’s a gamble, but it’s politics.  

For me with Sturgeon it's the condescending, arrogant attitude she gives everytime shes questioned she genuinely gives of a "how dare you question me" attitude everytime someone asks her any question that isn't entirely to her approval. I'm not sure if it's a new thing or if it's just become way more evident during the pandemic, the eye rolling and the looks she gives some of the journalist is childish and pathetic.

You forgot to add the silly wee laugh that indicates that the question is either, in her opinion, not serious or is below her to answer. This has been going on for a while now.

[TheScarf]

13 minutes ago, Kima Greggs said:

 

 

[ICTChris]

Only applies to ye olde Kent and South African variants.

[TheScarf]

SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY

 

[Glennie]

  

1 hour ago, Zetterlund said:

Not sure if this has been posted already. Hopefully the first of many, although I wont hold my breath.

 

great, more of it

terrifying thing is most people still dont realise theyve been abused with this constant fear propaganda, behaviour manipulation

[Michael W]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59979504

JVT blows the whistle on his time as deputy CMO. 

[PedroMoutinho]

Less than half of ‘covid patients’ in London now being mainly treated for covid. I wonder when we’ll get proper data from the SG rather than two ‘random’ dates from random health boards.

 

[deegee]

6 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

Less than half of ‘covid patients’ in London now being mainly treated for covid. I wonder when we’ll get proper data from the SG rather than two ‘random’ dates from random health boards.

 

This is something which seems to have gone under the radar and hasn’t really been questioned; Sturgeon promised a week or two ago to disclose the data of “with covid” and “because of covid”.

As you say, we got two random sample results based on a specific timescale. Surely even the Scottish Government would need to know the full picture and rolling trends etc? It’s hardly rocket science; unless I’m missing something, it’s surely just an audit around the health boards?

It is another example of poor optics and gives the suspicion that Sturgeon’s Government are suppressing the full facts.

Edited January 13, 2022 by deegee

[Todd_is_God]

11 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

Less than half of ‘covid patients’ in London now being mainly treated for covid. I wonder when we’ll get proper data from the SG rather than two ‘random’ dates from random health boards.

 

I was slightly bemused by NS's dismissal of AS's question about the data on Tuesday tbh.

The excuse that it was "preliminary data" and that it was "broadly in line with August" is a poor one. Firstly, the dataset is far too small to make a fair comparison (a snapshot of a single day in August vs 2 different, but still small, data ranges in just 2 health boards) and also ignored his main point of the question - if the SG do not have this data to hand and at their disposal at all times, just what are they using to form their policies?

NS comes across as placing zero weight on the value of this data, preferring instead to view "with covid" and "because of covid" as exactly the same, and can't get her head round why everyone else doesn't feel the same.

[ICTChris]

What reason is there that Healthboards in London can access this data but those in Scotland can't? 

[8MileBU]

20 minutes ago, deegee said:

This is something which seems to have gone under the radar and hasn’t really been questioned; Sturgeon promised a week or two ago to disclose the data of “with covid” and “because of covid”.

As you say, we got two random sample results based on a specific timescale. Surely even the Scottish Government would need to know the full picture and rolling trends etc? It’s hardly rocket science; unless I’m missing something, it’s surely just an audit around the health boards?

It is another example of poor optics and gives the suspicion that Sturgeon’s Government are suppressing the full facts.

For me it’s no longer even a case that it “gives the suspicion” but more a case of “it as good as guarantees” that they’re are trying to pull the wool over our eyes for some unknown and no doubt baffling reason.

Edited January 13, 2022 by 8MileBU

[Detournement]

They need to exaggerate the impact of Covid to justify the permanent expansion of vaccine passports Swinney has been talking about. 

[Michael W]

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-cancels-visit-after-family-member-tests-positive-for-covid-12514781

There is no need to isolate in this situation. Ridiculous 'leadership'. 

Should've just said he had diarrhoea, and at least then he'd be being honest about the fact he's shat himself.