SweeperDee Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hendo said: Think again. There is not a hope in hell of them just scrapping the league for this season. Too many legal complications. The two possibilities are they suspend the league and finish the season when it's safer to do so, and delay the start of next season, or play the remaining games behind closed doors. My money is on them playing this weekend, then suspending the next two rounds of fixtures and see where we are mid April. I doubt we'll finish the season to some time in the summer though, especially if players are affected, but we will finish the season. Expect the euros to be postponed for a year. The virus is supposed to peak in April, apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SweeperDee said: The virus is supposed to peak in April, apparently. And the peak doesn't really tell the story. As there's no natural immunity to coronavirus you couldn't have any gatherings for weeks after the last person has tested positive. And even then it would be a risk; it would take just one person to carry it and we begin again. You'd absolutely have to close down for several months, or until a vaccine is found. Edited March 13, 2020 by Mr Heliums 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: And the peak doesn't really tell the story. As there's no natural immunity to coronavirus you couldn't have any gatherings for weeks after the last person has tested positive. And even then it would be a risk; it would take just one person to carry it and we begin again. You'd absolutely have to close down for several months, or until a vaccine is found. Surely with it being a virus, there is a natural immunity to it once you've contracted it and then got it out of your system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Surely with it being a virus, there is a natural immunity to it once you've contracted it and then got it out of your system. There was an epidemiologist on the radio yesterday saying that they dont believe that anyone has been reinfected (even though there are a couple of reports of this in China). They think that people do - as you say - have an immunity once they have had it and any reports of double infection are people who have had this and then another different virus in succession. None of that is 100% nailed though as the evidence is being gathered on the hoof. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock_the_squak Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 My Hearts supporting work colleague thinks this season's league should be declared null and void.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: And the peak doesn't really tell the story. As there's no natural immunity to coronavirus you couldn't have any gatherings for weeks after the last person has tested positive. And even then it would be a risk; it would take just one person to carry it and we begin again. You'd absolutely have to close down for several months, or until a vaccine is found. That's what they are trying in China, but we seem to be planning to have most of the population acquire immunity through infection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, ropy said: Play until the arithmetic is confirmed, won’t be long Just go for the Duckworth Lewis method. United to win the league by 46 runs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 What a fucking country. There are footballers left right and centre all over the world now testing positive. Not to mention heads of state. They've even shut mount everest down for fucks sake. But the SFA : oLd FiRm gAmE ThIs WeEkEnD. MuSt LeT fAnS iN aS nOrMaL. CoRoNaViRuS cAn WaIt A fEw MoRe dAyS It’s not the SFA that is making this decision. The minute the government tell them to call games off, they will. When you do things based on government advice, you can’t really blame the SFA for not going ahead and calling off matches, even if it seems intuitively the correct thing to do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, djchapsticks said: The main problem with this is that player contracts generally run to the end of May. So a lot of clubs would lose a lot of out of contract players for a summer run in. You could open the transfer window on an emergency basis but then, you're open to messing with the integrity of the competition. That's a fair point. Clubs would need to extend contracts and the transfer window would also need to be delayed. They might veer towards closed door games then, but even that would be compromised if players start to be affected. If it's as bad as they are predicting though, in a few weeks the football might be the last thing we're worrying about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, SweeperDee said: The virus is supposed to peak in April, apparently. That might be true, but the peak doesn't mean the end. End likely to be August from what I have been hearing . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyM Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, bendan said: That's what they are trying in China, but we seem to be planning to have most of the population acquire immunity through infection. Our government's approach is the "Let's get CoVid19 done" approach. It's a viable approach, but if we get it even slightly wrong, there will be a large number of unnecessary deaths, primarily among the old and the otherwise sick. As far as I can see, no other country is adopting our approach at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Is this not "advisory" anyway, and to release frontline staff. I wonder how many frontline staff would be at St Mirren V Ross County anyway? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, AllyM said: As far as I can see, no other country is adopting our approach at the moment. I think they pretty much are, at least in northern Europe. I don't think any are thinking they can contain it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 54 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: It’s not the SFA that is making this decision. The minute the government tell them to call games off, they will. When you do things based on government advice, you can’t really blame the SFA for not going ahead and calling off matches, even if it seems intuitively the correct thing to do. Apologies, I meant the Scottish Government 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, Hendo said: That's a fair point. Clubs would need to extend contracts and the transfer window would also need to be delayed. They might veer towards closed door games then, but even that would be compromised if players start to be affected. If it's as bad as they are predicting though, in a few weeks the football might be the last thing we're worrying about. Fraser Wishart put out a statement to all PFA Scotland members last night to state that they will reject the notion of closed door matches. If it's deemed dangerous enough for supporters, then it's the same for players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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craigkillie Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Fraser Wishart put out a statement to all PFA Scotland members last night to state that they will reject the notion of closed door matches. If it's deemed dangerous enough for supporters, then it's the same for players.It doesn't surprise me given who is responsible, but that is thick as f**k. The reason it is "deemed dangerous" for supporters is because there are lots of people there, not because the pitch is going to give them coronavirus. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, craigkillie said: 13 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Fraser Wishart put out a statement to all PFA Scotland members last night to state that they will reject the notion of closed door matches. If it's deemed dangerous enough for supporters, then it's the same for players. It doesn't surprise me given who is responsible, but that is thick as f**k. The reason it is "deemed dangerous" for supporters is because there are lots of people there, not because the pitch is going to give them coronavirus. Personally, I find it hard to disagree with anything he's said in that statement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Personally, I find it hard to disagree with anything he's said in that statement. The reason for playing behind closed doors wouldn't be for health reasons – it's all about front-line health staff required at big matches being better employed elsewhere. Wishart says he's being led by advice – but he's totally ignoring the context of that advice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 His logic leads to the natural extension that nobody should be at work doing their jobs or being outside at all in case they catch it. I would imagine the players will have as much chance of catching it when they go to Tesco as they do when they're in a stadium with a maximum of 50 people in total.I'm not saying there's necessarily a problem with the idea, but the reasons given for it are fairly stupid and don't hold up to scrutiny, much like everything else PFA Scotland do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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