Sergeant Wilson Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, JTS98 said: Has anyone else actually come out and said it? I'd be shocked if they did. From the point of view of someone who doesn't understand football, getting rid of the smaller clubs makes perfect sense. The same number of fans divided among a smaller number of clubs. The same number of sponsors. The same amount of cash etc. That's what she thinks. She's the kind of person who thinks that if Ayr United go bust, their fans will all go to watch Killie. I don't think that makes her 'a vile human'. I think that makes her clueless. Entering a new field and not taking the time to research it and understand the issues looks like arrogance to me. You're not going to subject yourself to another day like yesterday over this are you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Entering a new field and not taking the time to research it and understand the issues looks like arrogance to me. You're not going to subject yourself to another day like yesterday over this are you? I'm a man of the arts. A braying crowd declaring you wrong does not make you wrong. Ann Budge didn't seek out a role in football. The people trying to save Hearts approached her and she agreed to stump up a lot of money and do a job that needed to be done to save the club. I'll forgive her for not spending all of her time getting to know the ins and outs of football fans' opinions on league structure. I think she had other things to do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, JTS98 said: I'm a man of the arts. A braying crowd declaring you wrong does not make you wrong. Ann Budge didn't seek out a role in football. The people trying to save Hearts approached her and she agreed to stump up a lot of money and do a job that needed to be done to save the club. I'll forgive her for not spending all of her time getting to know the ins and outs of football fans' opinions on league structure. I think she had other things to do. Well I'm leaving it there. My involvement through all the discussion has been to snigger at the back of the class and she's given me plenty to snigger at. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Well I'm leaving it there. My involvement through all the discussion has been to snigger at the back of the class and she's given me plenty to snigger at. I don't doubt she has. Nobody has ever said she has done an exclusively good job. I suppose my surprise is just at your implication that you agree with the brain-dead assertion of the perhaps moronic opening poster that she can justifiably be referred to as a 'vile human'. We've all got standard, I suppose. Using that kind of language about another person reflects far worse on those doing it than on the target. Edited May 9, 2020 by JTS98 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: How would you assess her then, or anyone else? She's expressed views that some on here find a bit heartless (pun unintended). She has pushed a course of action based entirely on self interest to the possible detriment of other clubs. There's suggestions of nepotism in the contracting at the stadium. She seems quite unpleasant. +ve stamina got us out of the admin/Lithuanian bank mess put in a few million when nobody else would when needed original Levein/Neilson appointment first 3 years benefactors woman's team and community involvement boosted first club to go to Living Wage for al employees new stand - turnover well up loyalty in not just handing over the reins to FOH last month when we were on the cusp of chaos -ve naive to end up so dependent upon Levein. careless to allow hiring (unseen) and release of so many players too loyal to Levein who should have been relieved of position after his heart attack or, at latest, after cup final naive to leave £12m+ contract in hands of inexperienced small contractor - specially as he is a relative. naive to have had a general manager being responsible for pre-ordering 7000 seats naive to confuse a relationship with Hibs CEO for a relationship with Hibs owner naive to to take prominent position in the futile attempted reconstruction. Like most people, she'll be a mix of good and bad. But being too naive and being too loyal are not exactly the worst traits in a human. Of course, being a woman owner with (no separate CEO) she has had huge amounts of public scrutiny - not helped by huge volumes of statements. But I reckon you'd be peeking through your fingers if that level of analysis was done on certain other SPFL owners and CEOs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, JTS98 said: I don't doubt she has. Nobody has ever said she has done an exclusively good job. I suppose my surprise is just at your implication that you agree with the brain-dead assertion of the perhaps moronic opening poster that she can justifiably be referred to as a 'vile human'. We've all got standard, I suppose. Using that kind of language about another person reflects far worse on those doing it than on the target. It's the internet, get used to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said: It's the internet, get used to it. Aye. Good stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, JTS98 said: Aye. Good stuff. Would it be ok to refer to her as vermin instead? It's a very Heartsy thing to say after all. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 It wasn't that long ago that she was being touted as the best example of a modern club owner, the future was hers. Fitba fans are a right fickle bunch.Yeah, what are they like eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Romeo said: Yeah, what are they like eh? Not a good look tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, bennett said: Not a good look tbf. None of them ever are tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: None of them ever are tbf. Well he's not going to post positive Sevco pics tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, bennett said: Well he's not going to post positive Sevco pics tbf. What positive Sevco pics? What have they achieved in the 8 years of their clubs existence? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Kettle black she said previously too many clubs in Scotland some need to go. It might be hers Now she wants more clubs so Hearts can stay in the top flight. Really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 The budgie and the bunnet's love affair with Scottish football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 @BawWatchin, @weetoonlad, and @wastecoatwilly are combining to take the heat off Budge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: @BawWatchin, @weetoonlad, and @wastecoatwilly are combining to take the heat off Budge. Never been relagated in my life no starting now 1 hour ago, weetoonlad said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Hearts lads going to stream straight in with the "everybody else's fault" line? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Romeo said: Hearts lads going to stream straight in with the "everybody else's fault" line? There's going to be a lot of "Rangers did it! Rangers did it" going on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 The budgie and the bunnet both built stadiums,pissed off club legends (Burns and Levein) and pissed off the hierarchy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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