Dons_1988 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, bennett said: Stealing whatever's not nailed down and wrecking everything else. They're destroying their movements reputation and a lot of support that people had for them. Yep, I think a lot of people sympathise with riots (within reason) due to the fact this sort of thing has happened repeatedly over such a long period, with no one in power doing anything meaningful to change it. You lose support very quickly when it becomes opportunistic looting, gives your opponents an open goal to disregard you as petty criminals too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Lol at people like Bennett not realising that forms of protest that annoy them are the effective ones. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, bennett said: Stealing whatever's not nailed down and wrecking everything else. They're destroying their movements reputation and a lot of support that people had for them. I don't know where you're reading but in Chicago the protests and the looting are two entirely separate things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: Lol at people like Bennett not realising that forms of protest that annoy them are the effective ones. Violence, looting and destruction are things that I'm surprisingly not keen on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, bennett said: Violence, looting and destruction are things that I'm surprisingly not keen on. Its clear that a lot of people are comfortable with the police murdering black people every day. The purpose of violent protest is to make those people uncomfortable by trangressing on the one thing they care about which is property rights. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 It really is "Look at us" syndrome, if they took a knee for everyone who've died in american police custody they'd never be off them.Salah has been giving falling down a good go over the years tbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 George who? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 “I had the sense that a core element of the remaining protesters—again, most of whom seemed to be young and white—were directing the effort...These tactics reminded me of actions I had seen during the gilet jaune protests in Paris” Piece in the New Yorker. Interesting that your average Brit gammon loved the gilet jaune and HK protesters but hate the US protesters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Detournement said: Its clear that a lot of people are comfortable with the police murdering black people every day. The purpose of violent protest is to make those people uncomfortable by trangressing on the one thing they care about which is property rights. A second term for Trump, thanks to BLM and Antifa, atleast they got a new telly and some trainers tho... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Can’t imagine the mindset where some property damage of a billionaire company somehow outweighs the glee with which US police officers shoot down black people in determining where my sympathies lie. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, bennett said: A second term for Trump, thanks to BLM and Antifa, atleast they got a new telly and some trainers tho... I agree with that actually. This will probably work in Trump's favour in the same way the People's Vote rallies were a gift to the Tories. However the current Democratic establishment will do as much for poor and non white people as they did in the Obama and Clinton eras ie nothing good. So they aren't losing anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Can’t imagine the mindset where some property damage of a billionaire company somehow outweighs the glee with which US police officers shoot down black people in determining where my sympathies lie. There were a few woman talking about this in my work today and I got the feeling that the main impression this made on them was jealousy at other people getting free designer gear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 It's a shame that Liverpool FC weren't so concerned by racism when Luis Suarez was on their payroll. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, bennett said: A second term for Trump, thanks to BLM and Antifa, atleast they got a new telly and some trainers tho... Lets actively protest a twisted consumerist system that values property and wealth over lives, but also steal those $700 Dolce & Gabbana trainers that look sweeeet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Lets actively protest a twisted consumerist system that values property and wealth over lives, but also steal those $700 Dolce & Gabbana trainers that look sweeeet. You are starting to understand this. The trainers are all good as they are made by workers. The problem is the exploitation and exchange value. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: It's a shame that Liverpool FC weren't so concerned by racism when Luis Suarez was on their payroll. A case of being seen to be doing something. They don't care. Racism is rife in English football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Amazing gesture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I'm miles behind with news so have just caught up with this. Just delighted I don't live in America tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford prefect Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Or the 39 Italians killed by their fans. They don't seem to bring that up much. Sweep sweep 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 45 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Lets actively protest a twisted consumerist system that values property and wealth over lives, but also steal those $700 Dolce & Gabbana trainers that look sweeeet. In your mind, what proportion of the protestors are stealing designer goods? Are you by any chance being side-tracked by the most insignificant possible details? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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