Jacksgranda Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: If I read that correctly, at least three of these cops managed to pepper spray themselves while attempting to restrain one man. Which means that not only are they a bunch of bullying shitebag murdering c***s, they are also complete fucking morons Aye, and if I read it correctly, they managed to do it more than once. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: I'm certainly not you're lying but I'd put my house on it that there are plenty of fuckwits on Twitter who'll be making excuses. I'm positive it applies in some States in America. I was watching something on Netflix and it was mentioned. For the life of me I can't recall what the programme was. I watch a lot of criminal documentaries... O.K.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_&_T Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: I'm certainly not you're lying but I'd put my house on it that there are plenty of fuckwits on Twitter who'll be making excuses. I'm positive it applies in some States in America. I was watching something on Netflix and it was mentioned. For the life of me I can't recall what the programme was. I watch a lot of criminal documentaries... Some people will try to justify anything. I remember with Chauvin they said Floyd had a heart attack because of drugs, that it was a recognised police restraint, etc. The guy was screaming he couldn't breathe and Chauvin didn't release his knee, because he too was a bully and he wanted to defy the crowd demanding he did just did that, IMHO. The officer in the video I posted successfully claimed the victim made him fear he was reaching for a gun, before wasting him. But how do you justify repeatedly striking a man who was restrained, again and again? They need Bob Massingbird from Blackadder: Quote Blackadder: I remember Massingbird's most famous case: the Case of the Bloody Knife. A man was found next to a murdered body. He had the knife in his hand. 13 witnesses had seen him stab the victim. And when the police arrived, he said "I'm glad I killed the b*****d." Massingbird not only got him off; he got him knighted in the New Year's Honours List. And the relatives of the victim had to pay to wash the blood out of his jacket! Perkins: I hear he's a dab hand at the prosecution as well, sir. Blackadder: Yes, well, look at Oscar Wilde. Perkins: Ol' butch Oscar. Blackadder: Yep! Big, bearded, bonking, butch Oscar. The terror of the ladies. 114 illegitimate children, world heavyweight boxing champion and author of the best-selling pamphlet "Why I Like To Do It With Girls." And Massingbird had him sent down for being a whoopsie. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 14 hours ago, The Golden God said: Footage is out and it is graphic. Think I’d riot. That's horrific. I'd only seen the limited video on the BBC website. I absolutely do not want to see any more. And in typical twitter fuckwit style, the first comment I read on that tweet is "he fled from the police what are they supposed to give him a cupcake and pat on the back? LOL" I feel heart sorry for his Mum/parents, they're not going to be able to avoid knowing exactly what happened even if they don't watch it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_&_T Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, s_dog said: That's horrific. I'd only seen the limited video on the BBC website. I absolutely do not want to see any more. And in typical twitter fuckwit style, the first comment I read on that tweet is "he fled from the police what are they supposed to give him a cupcake and pat on the back? LOL" I feel heart sorry for his Mum/parents, they're not going to be able to avoid knowing exactly what happened even if they don't watch it. Indeed! The police are not employed to dispense Judge Dredd style vigilante justice. If he was armed and posing an imminent threat to the public, then there would be some justification for using force. But to beat up a man like that is never justifiable. I read Tweets that suggest stuff like 'he lost his human rights when he committed the crime...', as though someone ceases to be human due to their transgression. There are a lot of very vicious members of the public, and it's my fear that some of them pursue careers in the police force. Edited January 28, 2023 by G_&_T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Beating a prisoner or suspect should never be allowed. The scum police in the US are massively armed, so should use the pepper spray or tasers if needed, but we see so often they use them immediately. The police in the US is stuffed full of the worse sort of hideous coward bully scum. So many atrocious attempts at human beings find their way in to that gang, and gang is a very fitting word for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 3 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Beating a prisoner or suspect should never be allowed. The scum police in the US are massively armed, so should use the pepper spray or tasers if needed, but we see so often they use them immediately. The police in the US is stuffed full of the worse sort of hideous coward bully scum. So many atrocious attempts at human beings find their way in to that gang, and gang is a very fitting word for them. There’s another problem here. Recently a perp refused to exit a vehicle while surrounded by the police, and then finally jumped out and started shooting. They fired 57 times in return. Here’s my issue…this happened in an apartment parking lot and I saw little to no effort by the police to establish safe fire backgrounds before they blasted away. I’m amazed some innocent person wasn’t hit! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Four people shot one of whom is dead and a baby, aged 2, has been injured. Absolutely mental. https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/28/us/baltimore-shooting-saturday/index.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, 101 said: Four people shot one of whom is dead and a baby, aged 2, has been injured. Absolutely mental. https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/28/us/baltimore-shooting-saturday/index.html Yet another US shooting thread for this pish Edited January 29, 2023 by topcat(The most tip top) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 51 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Yet another US shooting thread for this pish Aye my mistake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 20 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Beating a prisoner or suspect should never be allowed. The scum police in the US are massively armed, so should use the pepper spray or tasers if needed, but we see so often they use them immediately. The police in the US is stuffed full of the worse sort of hideous coward bully scum. So many atrocious attempts at human beings find their way in to that gang, and gang is a very fitting word for them. I think it's the same kind of people that are in any police force But the country is addicted to violence and armed to the teeth So, in their heads, they apply violence first before it can be done to them Must be an extremely frightening country to live in, but suppose you probably get used to it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 28/01/2023 at 15:08, G_&_T said: But how do you justify repeatedly striking a man who was restrained, again and again? Being a white cop might have helped 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Binos said: I think it's the same kind of people that are in any police force But the country is addicted to violence and armed to the teeth So, in their heads, they apply violence first before it can be done to them Must be an extremely frightening country to live in, but suppose you probably get used to it Depends…if you’re a minority it is significantly worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, TxRover said: Depends…if you’re a minority it is significantly worse. No doubt They also statistically are more likely to be shot themselves so they are even more hair trigger in those situations Route cause of all of it is addition to arms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 28/01/2023 at 14:49, Mark Connolly said: It's still in English Law, although it was challenged as recently as 2016 IIRC. There was a case in the late 90s where 4 guys agreed to kill someone the next day. One of them didn't show up, but was still convicted, as he had agreed to take part, and didn't stop the others. This is a very long read, but worthwhile for anyone interested in the topic: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/09/joint-enterprise-law-uk-how-do-11-people-go-to-jail-for-one-murder 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 28/01/2023 at 14:23, Newbornbairn said: That's a British thing - "Joint Enterprise". It's something the Americans have been pointing at us and laughing about for years. I haven't read the rest of the thread to see if someone else pointed out, but there was a lad in Alabama (I think) who was given the death pelanty because he was present during the commission of a crime in which a police officer was killed. Him and his friend were selling drugs, I think, when there was a bust and a polis was shot, but not by him. @19QOS19 was it "The Innocence Project"? I deliberately avoided that as it looked heartbreaking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Saw some rumours online that one of the police sent a picture of Tyre after he’d been beaten up to his (cops) ex girlfriend, apparently she & Tyre worked together & rumours of a relationship, it would explain why the Scorpion unit were in the neighbourhood they were in (relatively affluent & low crime) if it was a case of targeting Tyre. Could all be a load of absolute bullshit of course & I don’t want to come across all @detourment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 28/01/2023 at 14:23, Newbornbairn said: That's a British thing - "Joint Enterprise". It's something the Americans have been pointing at us and laughing about for years. I'm sure Hunter S Thompson wrote a piece not long before he died about a girl who accepted a lift from somebody who ended up stopping at a store and robbing it, and shooting somebody. She was done for murder. Can't find any trace of it though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm sure Hunter S Thompson wrote a piece not long before he died about a girl who accepted a lift from somebody who ended up stopping at a store and robbing it, and shooting somebody. She was done for murder. Can't find any trace of it though. Apparently there’s a different interpretation in the states now after CBS tried to sue Sony! You need to have known or encouraged the other person to commit the crime…. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, Brother Blades said: Saw some rumours online that one of the police sent a picture of Tyre after he’d been beaten up to his (cops) ex girlfriend, apparently she & Tyre worked together & rumours of a relationship, it would explain why the Scorpion unit were in the neighbourhood they were in (relatively affluent & low crime) if it was a case of targeting Tyre. Could all be a load of absolute bullshit of course & I don’t want to come across all @detourment. True or not I bet it was something like that. It'll come out with the plea bargaining. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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