cmontheloknow Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lithgierose said: Players and management wanted to give the season a go it seems. At glenafton anyway. 🗡 not news. They were not one of the 14. I must have missed Southy's budget plans for how the side would get through the season. Edited October 12, 2020 by cmontheloknow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, gogsy said: No idea why you think you should have seen them. Still the wee digs coming from yourself Nah, just not up for my own club being slagged off by his like. I don't think any player or manager has the right to dictate to their club what the club should do. Edited October 12, 2020 by cmontheloknow 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 The reaction of the Ladeside faithful to the difficult decision in withdrawing has been very uplifting. The thought of no football through the winter has been more than countered by the fact the club, management and most importantly the fans are in as one for the rebuild ahead. Mon The Side. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar Wilder Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Personally, i haven't spoken to any Glens fans who don't support the clubs decision to withdraw from competitions this season! Let others say what they want but imo they've put the interests of the club first, if manager and players don't agree, that's their prerogative! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawrash1 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Why should the manager not have a massive say in things! Most dedicate their life to the football clubs they work for so said clubs have teams to field every week never mind the fact in this case the manager has given ten years service and multiple honours to the club. Not forgetting everything that has been done to get this season to the point we are at now. The glens not only shat the bed big time like pollok they did it at the last minute because two other nearby clubs decided to give up, totally spineless no wonder he jacked it in. Was the manager paying the wages like? The Glens like other teams decided it wasn’t financially viable to play without there main source of income the fans. It’s quite obvious like the other teams that have withdrawn there players refused to play for nothing and you can’t blame them. Respect clubs decisions and move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldandround Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bawrash1 said: Was the manager paying the wages like? The Glens like other teams decided it wasn’t financially viable to play without there main source of income the fans. It’s quite obvious like the other teams that have withdrawn there players refused to play for nothing and you can’t blame them. Respect clubs decisions and move on. No problem with the decision. However they should not get to remain in the prem and should be forced to start at whatever the bottom tier is next year. So unfair on those teams that are going to at least try and play. Its a travesty what teams like glens are getting away with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgc Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, oldandround said: No problem with the decision. However they should not get to remain in the prem and should be forced to start at whatever the bottom tier is next year. So unfair on those teams that are going to at least try and play. Its a travesty what teams like glens are getting away with. They could easily supplement their first team squad with players from their development squad or under 19 or under 17 teams , unless of course none of those teams are competing in their relevant leagues for health reasons either ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpollok Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, tartantam said: Why should the manager not have a massive say in things! Most dedicate their life to the football clubs they work for so said clubs have teams to field every week never mind the fact in this case the manager has given ten years service and multiple honours to the club. Not forgetting everything that has been done to get this season to the point we are at now. The glens not only shat the bed big time like pollok they did it at the last minute because two other nearby clubs decided to give up, totally spineless no wonder he jacked it in. Hi Chris. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, tartantam said: Why should the manager not have a massive say in things! Most dedicate their life to the football clubs they work for so said clubs have teams to field every week never mind the fact in this case the manager has given ten years service and multiple honours to the club. Not forgetting everything that has been done to get this season to the point we are at now. The glens not only shat the bed big time like pollok they did it at the last minute because two other nearby clubs decided to give up, totally spineless no wonder he jacked it in. Well one reason could be that sometimes managers just walk out of a club to go to another club..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, oldandround said: No problem with the decision. However they should not get to remain in the prem and should be forced to start at whatever the bottom tier is next year. So unfair on those teams that are going to at least try and play. Its a travesty what teams like glens are getting away with. All teams were giving the option of withdrawal without any sanctions, 9 chose that option, so why should glens or any of the others be punished for taking what was offered? Imo west league teams should have voted to delay restart for another couple of months but hey ho majority voted to start this month, best of luck to them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vob22 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) I dare say a lot of the clubs in the top division have probably promised the players a return to full wages on the condition that the crowds are allowed back in. Probably 3 of the biggest travelling supports are Pollok, Talbot and Kilbirnie have withdrawn with Glens and Cumnock also having a pretty decent travelling support as well. Unless the players are playing for nothing or expenses, its hard to see where the majority of clubs are going to generate the money this season. Take Beith for example, perhaps the biggest club in the league now, no home games against Talbot, Pollok or Kilbirnie, even in the unlikely scenario that crowds are allowed back in, where is the money going to come from to fund the wages when the players do eventually demand it? Edited October 12, 2020 by vob22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Sgc said: They could easily supplement their first team squad with players from their development squad or under 19 or under 17 teams , unless of course none of those teams are competing in their relevant leagues for health reasons either ? I'm pretty sure there's a limit to the number of times dev squad players can appear for the first team 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpollok Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, vob22 said: I dare say a lot of the clubs in the top division have probably promised the players a return to full wages on the condition that the crowds are allowed back in. Probably 3 of the biggest travelling supports are Pollok, Talbot and Kilbirnie have withdrawn with Glens and Cumnock also having a pretty decent travelling support as well. Unless the players are playing for nothing or expenses, its hard to see where the majority of clubs are going to generate the money this season. Take Beith for example, perhaps the biggest club in the league now, no home games against Talbot, Pollok or Kilbirnie, even in the unlikely scenario that crowds are allowed back in, where is the money going to come from to fund the wages when the players do eventually demand it? The reality is they will find the cash, as the clubs that are still playing are not the clubs with the bigger attendances as you said, they are the clubs where money comes in through other means - Hurlford being a prime example of a Premier club with 100 core fans but pay big. The clubs you mention who pulled out, are the clubs more dependant on fans, and their investment in players is paid by attendances, fan incentive payment schemes, match day hospitality etc Maybe this episode will end the age old P&B debate about clubs spending money on wages as X is putting the cash and it’s not from fans etc, think it’s clear to see who these clubs are now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, archieb said: I'm pretty sure there's a limit to the number of times dev squad players can appear for the first team I've never heard that before. I have heard it the other way round where an overage player can only play for the Development team a certain number of times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankies Alive Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, superpollok said: The reality is they will find the cash, as the clubs that are still playing are not the clubs with the bigger attendances as you said, they are the clubs where money comes in through other means - Hurlford being a prime example of a Premier club with 100 core fans but pay big. The clubs you mention who pulled out, are the clubs more dependant on fans, and their investment in players is paid by attendances, fan incentive payment schemes, match day hospitality etc Maybe this episode will end the age old P&B debate about clubs spending money on wages as X is putting the cash and it’s not from fans etc, think it’s clear to see who these clubs are now. Utter rubbish,do you think Bankies rely on a sugar daddy? I think the problem is with clubs who have players who are only there for big wages.No wages = not playing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, archieb said: I'm pretty sure there's a limit to the number of times dev squad players can appear for the first team No there is not - 100% A first team player who is over aged, ( meaning born before 2001 ) can play for the U20s 6 times a season but only in league matches. U20s players can play as many times as the first team managers decides in any league or cup tie Edited October 12, 2020 by Bestsinceslicebread more information on age 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Informer Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, archieb said: I'm pretty sure there's a limit to the number of times dev squad players can appear for the first team It’s the other way about, only a certain amount of times a first team overage player can play for dev team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Bestsinceslicebread said: No there is not - 100% A first team player who is over aged, ( meaning born before 2001 ) can play for the U20s 6 times a season but only in league matches. U20s players can play as many times as the first team managers decides in any league or cup tie 53 minutes ago, The Informer said: It’s the other way about, only a certain amount of times a first team overage player can play for dev team. Fair enough. I must be mistaken. Knew about the overage rule, thought there was a less restrictive limit the other way too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 hours ago, oldandround said: No problem with the decision. However they should not get to remain in the prem and should be forced to start at whatever the bottom tier is next year. So unfair on those teams that are going to at least try and play. Its a travesty what teams like glens are getting away with. Pettiest post of the month ^^^^^^ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpollok Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Bankies Alive said: Utter rubbish,do you think Bankies rely on a sugar daddy? I think the problem is with clubs who have players who are only there for big wages.No wages = not playing. I don’t recall Bankies on here being discussed as one of the clubs who allegedly spend X on beating a team to a player. I certainly didn’t mention Clydebank in my post, more so made reference to the teams often discussed on here as the big payers And then everyone denies that there is someone putting money in. Edited October 13, 2020 by superpollok 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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