VincentGuerin Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I probably wouldn't have McKay in my first-choice side now, and I think that's a good sign. He's a good, if inconsistent, player. But I think it's a good sign of progress in the squad that a player considered indispensible a couple of years ago is now one I reckon we could get by without (and we often have). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Using Wiki. His goals to games isn't very good with 6 goals in 80. Dhanda is better at 10 in 65 for Ross County. Grant has 6 goals in 54 games with Spittal 15 in 73 for Motherwell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Not really comparable with McKay and Dhanda's stats IMO as every time we play a non-OF team McKay gets doubled up on. That shows he's a threat and highly thought of, it also makes it difficult to make those breakthroughs. What it does do though is open space for others, something we've not been able to capitalise on all that often due to a lack of creative players, but I think McKay in addition to the likes of Dhanda and Spittal as well as the return of Boyce, means we have lots of options and will be able to keep teams guessing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Aiden Denholm. Discuss please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 2 hours ago, Savage Henry said: Aiden Denholm. Discuss please. Solid wee player - mainly a grafter, but he can play a bit as well. Edit for a wee bit of background: Neilson was releasing Denholm, but Naismith decided to keep him on. Did well for us last season when called on. Edited July 26 by paranoid android 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 8 hours ago, Tony Wonder said: Not really comparable with McKay and Dhanda's stats IMO as every time we play a non-OF team McKay gets doubled up on. That shows he's a threat and highly thought of, it also makes it difficult to make those breakthroughs. What it does do though is open space for others, something we've not been able to capitalise on all that often due to a lack of creative players, but I think McKay in addition to the likes of Dhanda and Spittal as well as the return of Boyce, means we have lots of options and will be able to keep teams guessing. It's not something I thought of but noting is straight forward when comparing. I was thinking that Dhanda had it harder scoring for Ross County than McKay has at Hearts because of where we are and where they are in the table. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 2 hours ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: It's not something I thought of but noting is straight forward when comparing. I was thinking that Dhanda had it harder scoring for Ross County than McKay has at Hearts because of where we are and where they are in the table. Aren’t they both principally selected as providers rather than finishers so Goals Per Game might not be the most useful metric here anyway Not that their goals aren’t welcome you understand 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 2 hours ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: It's not something I thought of but noting is straight forward when comparing. I was thinking that Dhanda had it harder scoring for Ross County than McKay has at Hearts because of where we are and where they are in the table. Aye tbf I don't think it's comparing like for like was my main point. For instance I doubt Dhanda came up against many teams who sat behind the ball when at County. Will be a new challenge for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 11 hours ago, Tony Wonder said: Not really comparable with McKay and Dhanda's stats IMO as every time we play a non-OF team McKay gets doubled up on. That shows he's a threat and highly thought of, it also makes it difficult to make those breakthroughs. What it does do though is open space for others, something we've not been able to capitalise on all that often due to a lack of creative players, but I think McKay in addition to the likes of Dhanda and Spittal as well as the return of Boyce, means we have lots of options and will be able to keep teams guessing. Some people moan about McKay “going missing” in games against better opposition as if he’s got some character defect I’d suggest that his skill set is simply better against teams that sit deep and try to frustrate us. He’s a safecracker as opposed to a smash and grab guy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 11 hours ago, Tony Wonder said: Aye tbf I don't think it's comparing like for like was my main point. For instance I doubt Dhanda came up against many teams who sat behind the ball when at County. Will be a new challenge for him. Dhanda played in a County team set up to get the best out of him. McKay plays in a Hearts team set up to get the best out of Shankland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Looking forward to seeing McKay and Dhanda in the same team, with Shankland up front. Quite often underrated is our Barrie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, Kyle Reese said: Looking forward to seeing McKay and Dhanda in the same team, with Shankland up front. Quite often underrated is our Barrie. If it works it should free up space for him. He's definitely suffered from the doubling up. Hopefully that part of the park takes the heat off No.9 as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 14 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: If it works it should free up space for him. He's definitely suffered from the doubling up. Hopefully that part of the park takes the heat off No.9 as well. Spittal behind him with Yan and Barrie either side. Beni and Hoff sitting… reckon that would be too much for most teams to handle. Europe and old firm we could switch things about and sacrifice an attacking player to give more steel in the midfield if necessary. Edited July 27 by Kyle Reese 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 18 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Aren’t they both principally selected as providers rather than finishers so Goals Per Game might not be the most useful metric here anyway Not that their goals aren’t welcome you understand Yes, they are but we need to be scoring more goals. If we are playing 4-2-3-1 with Shankland being the 1 then the more goals have to come from whoever is a part of the 3. We want to improve on last season. Another step in the right direction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3-0 defeat to Fleetwood. Pish result even for a friendly. Naismith said we tried something completely different and it backfired. Fair enough. Do kind of wish we weren't tinkering the week before the opener though, you'd be wanting to play as close to your best team as possible. That said, our pre seasons are nearly always shite. Bring on the real stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 19 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said: 3-0 defeat to Fleetwood. Pish result even for a friendly. Naismith said we tried something completely different and it backfired. Fair enough. Do kind of wish we weren't tinkering the week before the opener though, you'd be wanting to play as close to your best team as possible. That said, our pre seasons are nearly always shite. Bring on the real stuff. Aye, not really fussed. I let pre-season pass me by every year. It just doesn't matter. Can't wait to get back to the fitba. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Humped by a team I couldn't find on a map in pre-season, absolutely non-plussed. I'd imagine we'll stick 3 past Rangers next week regardless - now *there* is a shambles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, JamieThomas said: Humped by a team I couldn't find on a map in pre-season, absolutely non-plussed. I'd imagine we'll stick 3 past Rangers next week regardless - now *there* is a shambles. You'll find Fleetwood on the map between the settlements of Mick and Mac. Actually it's Blackpool's version of Musselburgh I suppose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 All I've taken from pre-season is I don't have much of a clue how we'll line up next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Our pre seasons are usually crap as was last season's first games. Hope Naismith can choose a selection to be worked on in training before the visit of Sevco. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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