OFFICIAL HEARTS JUGGERNAUT THREAD 2020-

[kingjoey]

2 hours ago, Squonk said:

The sheep seem to have forgotten Darvel a bit quicker than is merited.

Believe me, no one has forgotten Darvel. And still Hearts couldn't finish above us. 

[Lyle Lanley]

1 hour ago, kingjoey said:

9 points behind Hearts after our nightmare week, Hearts 5-0, Darvel and Hibs 6-0, and Hearts had a game in hand. In the 3 games before tonight we won 1 point from 9. Still we have secured third with a game in hand. Not only that but Hearts are scrambling to be in the automatic European position in their last game. Lose to Hibs and it's the League Cup sections unless Celtic win the Scottish Cup. Beautiful. 

Would be pretty funny if we win on Saturday and Inverness win the cup  

[HarleyQuinn]

The sheer arrogance of this man is unbelievable. In multiple interviews he's spoken of the certainty of Hearts finishing third this season. He's made digs at Aberdeen on multiple occasions when the journalist/interviewer hasn't even mentioned Aberdeen. As a reminder, Hearts have only finished once above Aberdeen in the last 11 seasons. I would genuinely be embarrassed by Andrew McKinlay if he was employed by Aberdeen. What a blonker.

In contrast, Dave Cormack recently approached the question of 'will Aberdeen finish third in the league' with, "Aberdeen have to earn third spot. We'll try our best and see what happens at the end of the season".  

@VincentGuerin you've commented several times about injuries etc being the downfall of your season. If there's one team that knows all about that, it's Aberdeen. Cormack said towards the tail end of last season that as part of our recruitment strategy we now focus on the players injury history to prevent exactly what you have suffered this season. That's why we've had relatively few injuries. The last 4 seasons Aberdeen fans have continually complained about injury crises' however if you sign the likes Stevie May, Tommy Hoban and Dylan McGeouch etc what do you expect. Beni and Boyce have known ACL injuries from past seasons - no surprise its happened again. You've only yourselves to blame. Joe Savage (claiming Hearts should be finishing top two) is at fault as he signed those injury crocks and has left you with very few sellable assets. And to be honest, Rowles, Zander Clark, Akinston, Forrest, Kio etc are bang average and wouldn't get into either the Aberdeen or Hibs team. 

As proven by Hearts' poor transfer recruitment this season, the 5-6 million prize money doesn't guarantee you anything. I'm delighted Aberdeen finished third considering our direct rivals in Edinburgh both decimated us in February, the infamous 1-0 lose to Darvel and the recent poor decisions (VAR/Shinnie etc) we've been on the receiving end of. 3rd spot and a league cup semi final ain't too bad considering we finished 3rd bottom last season and required major surgery in the summer. I'm glad to see Aberdeen finally play group stage football after many failed attempts this past decade under McInnes.

 

[Irrational Behaviour]

f**k Hearts.

Get it right up the lot of you.

[kingjoey]

4 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Would be pretty funny if we win on Saturday and Inverness win the cup  

F*ck*ng hilarious.

[Jacksgranda]

Scotland's third farce look like they might be homing in on fourth spot. Well done them.

[kingjoey]

4 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

 

I'm glad to see Aberdeen finally play group stage football after many failed attempts this past decade under McInnes.

 

Just hold your horses here. 

[Dons_1988]

4 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

The sheer arrogance of this man is unbelievable. In multiple interviews he's spoken of the certainty of Hearts finishing third this season. He's made digs at Aberdeen on multiple occasions when the journalist/interviewer hasn't even mentioned Aberdeen.

 

has anyone ever seen @VincentGuerin and andrew McKinley in the same room? 

[Tony Wonder]

Ultimately never deserved it. Fair play to Aberdeen for the run they put together. Jealous as f**k of their fans having guaranteed trips to look forward to.

Naismith has got a bit of a tune out the players, this is solely on Neilson. 

Let's get 4th wrapped and this season in the bin.

Edited May 25, 2023 by Tony Wonder

[VincentGuerin]

5 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

@VincentGuerin you've commented several times about injuries etc being the downfall of your season. If there's one team that knows all about that, it's Aberdeen. Cormack said towards the tail end of last season that as part of our recruitment strategy we now focus on the players injury history to prevent exactly what you have suffered this season. That's why we've had relatively few injuries. The last 4 seasons Aberdeen fans have continually complained about injury crises' however if you sign the likes Stevie May, Tommy Hoban and Dylan McGeouch etc what do you expect. Beni and Boyce have known ACL injuries from past seasons - no surprise its happened again. You've only yourselves to blame. Joe Savage (claiming Hearts should be finishing top two) is at fault as he signed those injury crocks and has left you with very few sellable assets. And to be honest, Rowles, Zander Clark, Akinston, Forrest, Kio etc are bang average and wouldn't get into either the Aberdeen or Hibs team.

This would be a fair point if the injuries Hearts had had been part of a pattern of long-term sickness. But they're not, they're generally injuries picked up in tackles, or an ACL in Beni's case done in an innocuous moment on the pitch. Halkett averaged 34 league appearances a season at Livi in the three years before we signed him. Peter Haring had no injury history to speak of when we signed him.

Aberdeen have done well and should enjoy their moment, but retrospectively making events fit your narrative is just a bit silly. Sometimes injures are just bad luck, and that's football. What happened to Boyce (30+ games a season his whole career except one season) could have happened to Duk. What happened to Gordon could have happened to Roos. Beni's injury could have happened to Shinnie.

Nobody is claiming Hearts haven't had bad recruitment. But your assertion that Aberdeen are some kind of geniuses for taking injury records into account as if this isn't something all clubs do is just a bit daft.

Nice to see you back on the forum. You were quiet for a few months there.

Edited May 25, 2023 by VincentGuerin

[Dons_1988]

Fair play to the jambos, they backed up their hubris with some humility in defeat so you can’t argue. We go again next year. 

Right back to being a c**t until tomorrow. 

[HarleyQuinn]

47 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:

This would be a fair point if the injuries Hearts had had been part of a pattern of long-term sickness. But they're not, they're generally injuries picked up in tackles, or an ACL in Beni's case done in an innocuous moment on the pitch. Halkett averaged 34 league appearances a season at Livi in the three years before we signed him. Peter Haring had no injury history to speak of when we signed him.

Aberdeen have done well and should enjoy their moment, but retrospectively making events fit your narrative is just a bit silly. Sometimes injures are just bad luck, and that's football. What happened to Boyce (30+ games a season his whole career except one season) could have happened to Duk. What happened to Gordon could have happened to Roos. Beni's injury could have happened to Shinnie.

Nobody is claiming Hearts haven't had bad recruitment. But your assertion that Aberdeen are some kind of geniuses for taking injury records into account as if this isn't something all clubs do is just a bit daft.

Nice to see you back on the forum. You were quiet for a few months there.

I wouldn't refer to Aberdeen's strategy of looking at past injury histories as genius but rather common sense. We learnt our lesson after McInnes left.

You've continually said how lucky we've been in regards to injuries. Again, we've moved on from signing injured has beens (May, Bryson, McGeouch etc) and focused on players without an injury history. Of course injuries can happen however you'll stand a better chance of availability if the player in question doesn't come with a baggage load of past injury problems such as Boyce and Beni did when signing for Hearts.

Beni had done his ACL while at Everton as a youngster and has struggled to get going ever since. Liam Boyce suffered cruciate ligament damage to his knee while at Burton Albion. Its was no surprise to see a reoccurrence of their injuries. It was known when you signed them. 

Throughout the past few months you've frequently claimed that Hearts' poor run of form was solely down to injuries (Gordon, Beni, Boyce, Halkett and GMS) and how you were 10 points ahead. You've a squad of bang average players (including those injured) who were overly reliant on Gordon to bail you out. 

 

[VincentGuerin]

14 minutes ago, HarleyQuinn said:

I wouldn't refer to Aberdeen's strategy of looking at past injury histories as genius but rather common sense. We learnt our lesson after McInnes left.

You've continually said how lucky we've been in regards to injuries. Again, we've moved on from signing injured has beens (May, Bryson, McGeouch etc) and focused on players without an injury history. Of course injuries can happen however you'll stand a better chance of availability if the player in question doesn't come with a baggage load of past injury problems such as Boyce and Beni did when signing for Hearts.

Beni had done his ACL while at Everton as a youngster and has struggled to get going ever since. Liam Boyce suffered cruciate ligament damage to his knee while at Burton Albion. Its was no surprise to see a reoccurrence of their injuries. It was known when you signed them. 

Throughout the past few months you've frequently claimed that Hearts' poor run of form was solely down to injuries (Gordon, Beni, Boyce, Halkett and GMS) and how you were 10 points ahead. You've a squad of bang average players (including those injured) who were overly reliant on Gordon to bail you out. 

 

This is a waste of time. Anybody can sit and say they knew an injury was coming. Boyce has played 30+ games a year for his whole career bar one and for each of the last five seasons. It's simply nonsense to say it was predictable he'd miss the whole season. And even with Beni and Boyce aside, Halkett, Gordon, Kingsley, Haring, Rowles all missed huge chunks of the season.

If your argument is that this hasn't made a difference to Hearts' form, then I think most people would agree that's a bit silly. I think any Scottish Premiership squad would be down to 'bang average' players when they were missing the number of players Hearts have.

I think also, you need to pause for a bit before judging players who have spent much of the season playing out of position, playing with injuries as there's no chance to rest them, or playing in constantly changing line-ups. I think Kingsley, Rowles, and Atkinson have all been let down quite badly in this regard this season.

And nobody has solely blamed injuries. We sacked out coach to widespread approval from the support.

There are always multiple reasons when a season goes wrong. But it's funny that you seem to think it's some kind of zinger to say that a side missing half a team for a whole season has some players who aren't quite up to scratch. How would Aberdeen have fared? Considering those 'bang average' players have beaten Aberdeen twice.

 

Edited May 25, 2023 by VincentGuerin

[Darren]

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/trio-to-leave

Sad to see Smith go, although it was probably time. 

[Falcor Roar]

9 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Would be pretty funny if we win on Saturday and Inverness win the cup  

I'd take that, it'd be funny as hell if Inverness got group stage Euro football instead of, let's be honest, pretty average hearts, hibs and Aberdeen sides. 

[lennyzer0]

13 minutes ago, Darren said:

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/trio-to-leave

Sad to see Smith go, although it was probably time. 

Very much this. Delighted to see the back of the other two though.

[lennyzer0]

10 hours ago, kingjoey said:

9 points behind Hearts after our nightmare week, Hearts 5-0, Darvel and Hibs 6-0, and Hearts had a game in hand. In the 3 games before tonight we won 1 point from 9. Still we have secured third with a game in hand. Not only that but Hearts are scrambling to be in the automatic European position in their last game. Lose to Hibs and it's the League Cup sections unless Celtic win the Scottish Cup. Beautiful. 

We should have sacked Neilson much earlier - everyone but the board could see it, but we paid the price of not acting as decisively as the Aberdeen board did.

Jealous that we don't have guaranteed group stage football in Europe next year, but the best team wins the race over the season, and well done and best of luck to Aberdeen.

And, who knows, if we do take the fourth spot on Saturday, maybe we'll even win the qualifier and get into the Euro group stages that way (there does seem to be an oddly defeatist tendency amongst non OF fans, including our own, to assume that not getting into the group stages automatically means not getting in at all). 

Edited May 25, 2023 by lennyzer0

[Falcor Roar]

13 hours ago, StellarHibee said:

Some laugh these Hertz boiz.

If you're not on this site to rip the pish out of other fans when you're on top then you're as dull and grey as Aberdeen granite. Creating the jeopardy of calling it early is part of the fun. It's been dull for weeks with the Dandies going oh erm um, not sure if we'll do it ken when it was clear after Rangers they would. 

12 hours ago, StellarHibee said:

Momentum is on our side.

That's it my man. Bookmarked for when we murder you this weekend shree zip. 

[topcat(The most tip top)]

13 minutes ago, Darren said:

Sad to see Smith go, although it was probably time. 

Christophe Berra had 213 games for Hearts most of them good, many of them great but our final memory of his career is him having an absolute stinker against Hibs as time finally caught up with him.

I'd rather just have good memories of Smith

 

[Jacksgranda]

8 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

The sheer arrogance of this man is unbelievable. In multiple interviews he's spoken of the certainty of Hearts finishing third this season. He's made digs at Aberdeen on multiple occasions when the journalist/interviewer hasn't even mentioned Aberdeen. As a reminder, Hearts have only finished once above Aberdeen in the last 11 seasons. I would genuinely be embarrassed by Andrew McKinlay if he was employed by Aberdeen. What a blonker.

In contrast, Dave Cormack recently approached the question of 'will Aberdeen finish third in the league' with, "Aberdeen have to earn third spot. We'll try our best and see what happens at the end of the season".  

@VincentGuerin you've commented several times about injuries etc being the downfall of your season. If there's one team that knows all about that, it's Aberdeen. Cormack said towards the tail end of last season that as part of our recruitment strategy we now focus on the players injury history to prevent exactly what you have suffered this season. That's why we've had relatively few injuries. The last 4 seasons Aberdeen fans have continually complained about injury crises' however if you sign the likes Stevie May, Tommy Hoban and Dylan McGeouch etc what do you expect. Beni and Boyce have known ACL injuries from past seasons - no surprise its happened again. You've only yourselves to blame. Joe Savage (claiming Hearts should be finishing top two) is at fault as he signed those injury crocks and has left you with very few sellable assets. And to be honest, Rowles, Zander Clark, Akinston, Forrest, Kio etc are bang average and wouldn't get into either the Aberdeen or Hibs team. 

As proven by Hearts' poor transfer recruitment this season, the 5-6 million prize money doesn't guarantee you anything. I'm delighted Aberdeen finished third considering our direct rivals in Edinburgh both decimated us in February, the infamous 1-0 lose to Darvel and the recent poor decisions (VAR/Shinnie etc) we've been on the receiving end of. 3rd spot and a league cup semi final ain't too bad considering we finished 3rd bottom last season and required major surgery in the summer. I'm glad to see Aberdeen finally play group stage football after many failed attempts this past decade under McInnes.

 

Andrew McKinlay, you've just been Cormacked.