Fifes Elite Force Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Was I right in thinking that the decision was suppose to be made at the SPFL AGM yesterday if Kelty and Brora met the criteria to compete for an SPFL place? I haven't seen anything. Edited April 20, 2021 by Fifes Elite Force 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morley Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Given its highly unlikely the SPFL lawyer will say anything different to the SFA lawyer. How does the SPFL save face? Might we instead see the SPFL invite the winner of the LL/HL playoff to join, but via an invite rather than via the pyramid playoff, leaving club 42 (Brechin) in L2, so then running with an odd number in L2 next season only. Then rebalance at the end of next season with club 43 then automatically relegated from L2 but no promotion back in and going back to 42. Then with the pyramid playoff back to normal in 2022/23. That way the spfl can maintain a view that kelty/Brora aren't in their eyes legit entrants into the pyramid playoff with out challenging the SFA view that they are legit champions of the LL and HL. The issue with that being ofcourse there would be no possible promotion for the LL/HL next season but for 1 season only. Would the winner of the Brora/Kelty playoff really care they would be going into L2 by invite rather than via a club 42 playoff? Possibly not. Plus they don't run the risk of losing to club 42 in the playoff. The other drawback for the existing SPFL clubs being that club 43 next season could be one of them with automatic relegation but it would only be a risk for 1 season only. Edited April 20, 2021 by morley 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, Fifes Elite Force said: Was I right in thinking that the decision was suppose to be made at the SPFL AGM yesterday if Kelty and Brora met the criteria to compete for an SPFL place? I haven't seen anything. 1) There was no SPFL AGM yesterday 2) Your second point was just a supposition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, morley said: Given its highly unlikely the SPFL lawyer will say anything different to the SFA lawyer. How does the SPFL save face? Might we instead see the SPFL invite the winner of the LL/HL playoff to join, but via an invite rather than via the pyramid playoff, leaving club 42 (Brechin) in L2, so then running with an odd number in L2 next season only. Then rebalance at the end of next season with club 43 then automatically relegated from L2 but no promotion back in and going back to 42. Then with the pyramid playoff back to normal in 2022/23. That way the spfl can maintain a view that kelty/Brora aren't in their eyes legit entrants into the pyramid playoff with out challenging the SFA view that they are legit champions of the LL and HL. The issue with that being ofcourse there would be no possible promotion for the LL/HL next season but for 1 season only. Would the winner of the Brora/Kelty playoff really care they would be going into L2 by invite rather than via a club 42 playoff? Possibly not. Plus they don't run the risk of losing to club 42 in the playoff. The other drawback for the existing SPFL clubs being that club 43 next season could be one of them with automatic relegation but it would only be a risk for 1 season only. These matters depend on the particular point/s a QC is asked to rule on. The view of one lawyer can easily be contradicted by another - otherwise we wouldn’t bother with a court system. Adding clubs to the mix is maybe a tenable solution - did it happen last year? You need 11 premier clubs to agree to that - how do you get that and on what basis? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundesliga Boy Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Confirmed that Brechin have written to the SPFL board claiming it would be “fundamentally unfair” to hold play-offs between club 42 and winner of Highland and Lowland league play-off(based on games played by Brora and Kelty). They propose league reconstruction with no relegation, expanding League 2 to 12 clubs. Here we go again with reconstruction chat! Edited April 20, 2021 by Bundesliga Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Run Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Bundesliga Boy said: Confirmed that Brechin have written to the SPFL board claiming it would be “fundamentally unfair” to hold play-offs between club 42 and winner of Highland and Lowland league play-off(based on games played by Brora and Kelty).They propose league reconstruction with no relegation, expanding League 2 to 12 clubs. Here we go again with reconstruction chat! Confirmed Brechin have written to the SPFL board claiming it would be “fundamentally unfair” to hold play-offs between club 42 and winner of Highland and Lowland league play-off(based on games played by Brora and Kelty).They propose league reconstruction with no relegation, expanding League 2 to 12 clubs. Here we go again with reconstruction chat! Regardless of any opinions on the situation, we cannot trust the SPFL to pass reconstruction proposals. Last summer proved that. Its time for Brechin to accept that they are where they are on merit. Their escape routes are closing off fast, while any goodwill is being lost (even amongst their own fanbase). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Revoke their license for acting in bad faith and simply promote Kelty/Brora. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundesliga Boy Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Born To Run said: Regardless of any opinions on the situation, we cannot trust the SPFL to pass reconstruction proposals. Last summer proved that. Its time for Brechin to accept that they are where they are on merit. Their escape routes are closing off fast, while any goodwill is being lost (even amongst their own fanbase). Completely agree! Should be an enforced playoff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Born To Run said: Regardless of any opinions on the situation, we cannot trust the SPFL to pass reconstruction proposals. Last summer proved that. Its time for Brechin to accept that they are where they are on merit. Their escape routes are closing off fast, while any goodwill is being lost (even amongst their own fanbase). Reconstruction needs a) Premiership clubs to agree and b) League Two clubs to agree as well? Do Brechin have enough friends to even make it happen? And of course you then have the situation where promotion/relegation between the Premiership, Championship and League 1 is going ahead despite playing different amounts of games. What happens next year when Brora and Kelty are mid-table and it's Brechin or another established SPFL club at the bottom - more reconstruction? Edited April 20, 2021 by Ginaro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifes Elite Force Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: 1) There was no SPFL AGM yesterday 2) Your second point was just a supposition. You are right on the first part it was a meeting rather than AGM, However there was no supposition (from me anyway) it was a question. But it was based on something too. SPFL site states "At its meeting on 19 April, the SPFL Board will determine whether each of Kelty Hearts and Brora Rangers meet the SPFL’s Membership Criteria. Only then will the SPFL be in a position to announce the position in respect of Pyramid Play-Offs this season." Ken Ferguson steps down from SPFL Board | SPFL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the tin man Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Brora confirming they meet criteria. Brechin still sending letters everywhere 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifes Elite Force Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, the tin man said: Brora confirming they meet criteria. Brechin still sending letters everywhere Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Hopefully the holdup on naming fixture dates is mainly related to waiting for this evening's set of League 2 fixtures to be completed before providing the fixture dates for the four extra games in the two five team sections. Edited April 20, 2021 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Run Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 This gets better. Brechin’s reconstruction plan involves the OF Colts - yep, that popular concept. You genuinely couldn’t write this! https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brechin-city-plead-spfl-scrap-23947986 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fifes Elite Force said: You are right on the first part it was a meeting rather than AGM, However there was no supposition (from me anyway) it was a question. But it was based on something too. SPFL site states "At its meeting on 19 April, the SPFL Board will determine whether each of Kelty Hearts and Brora Rangers meet the SPFL’s Membership Criteria. Only then will the SPFL be in a position to announce the position in respect of Pyramid Play-Offs this season." Ken Ferguson steps down from SPFL Board | SPFL Thus it was the SPFL Board not the meeting of clubs that was to consider that matter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifes Elite Force Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Thus it was the SPFL Board not the meeting of clubs that was to consider that matter I wasn't really bothered about getting ins and outs of who specifically in the spfl was deciding (and you never mentioned that it was to be decided at a board meeting rather than AGM just a statement to say there was no AGM). I was asking the outcome of the decision yesterday (if it went ahead) and it clearly wasn't a supposition going by it was reported in the media and on the spfl site that yesterday a decision was going to be made on the criteria of both teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, andrew21 said: Fixture dates were out five days ago. https://spfl.co.uk/news/league-1-2-post-split-schedule The finalised post-split fixtures will be announced next week, ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 The fact that Brora have come out and said they've met the criteria and now Brechin are coming out with their pathetic lobbying attempt implies to me that the SPFL are planning to give the play-off the go-ahead. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifes Elite Force Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, craigkillie said: The fact that Brora have come out and said they've met the criteria and now Brechin are coming out with their pathetic lobbying attempt implies to me that the SPFL are planning to give the play-off the go-ahead. Seems that way 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, LongTimeLurker said: The finalised post-split fixtures will be announced next week, ... All they're doing is plugging in a bunch of names into the already scheduled fixtures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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