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Greenwald using Tucker ridiculing a self exposed total nutter on Fox TV to show how neutral Fox are. Keeping his appearance fees going though, fair play, who wouldn't? 

 

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6 hours ago, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) said:

Can you blame them? How could the Democrats possibly have won it without rigging it, when the Russians had already rigged it to ensure another Trump victory?

Some of the pish being peddled last time around on Russia fixing the election was just a way to avoid admiting that Hilary Clinton was simply an unpopular candidate who failed to skewer Herr Drumpf effectively during debates despite all the material she had to work with, and was the mirror image of what we are seeing now.

Reality is that only the wacky electoral college system and lots of voter suppression  is keeping the Republicans in the game and Arizona and Georgia flipping this time will soon be Texas for demographic reasons because America's white majority is remoreselessly ebbing away. By 2030 at the very latest it will be game over completely  for the GOP as currently constituted in federal politics.

More palatable for Nixon's southern strategy devotees to drone on about Dominion voting machines than face up to a future where the Rose Tico style diversity types  and purple-haired Admiral Holdo style SJWs that they hate have the numbers and they don't. It's the suede/denim secret police they have come for your uncool niece...

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1 hour ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

The dumbest timeline.

Yeah man, I got my trump, trumped out of my fucking mind, this is goood shit, the real thing, stuff that Giuliani gets. 

 

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12 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Some of the pish being peddled last time around on Russia fixing the election was just a way to avoid admiting that Hilary Clinton was simply an unpopular candidate who failed to skewer Herr Drumpf effectively during debates despite all the material she had to work with, and was the mirror image of what we are seeing now.

Reality is that only the wacky electoral college system and lots of voter suppression  is keeping the Republicans in the game and Arizona and Georgia flipping this time will soon be Texas for demographic reasons because America's white majority is remoreselessly ebbing away. By 2030 at the very latest it will be game over completely  for the GOP as currently constituted in federal politics.

More palatable for Nixon's southern strategy devotees to drone on about Dominion voting machines than face up to a future where the Rose Tico style diversity types  and purple-haired Admiral Holdo style SJWs that they hate have the numbers and they don't. It's the suede/denim secret police they have come for your uncool niece...

It's an interesting narrative, that the candidate with the most votes is the 'unpopular one'.  

On the whole she was more popular than Trump  but, lost because of the archaic electoral college system, by some distance.

The flip side of this is that Trump is still popular, garnering more votes than just about any successful President in history (obviously not Biden).

 

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47 minutes ago, aDONisSheep said:

Hilary Clinton was simply an unpopular candidate who failed to skewer Herr Drumpf effectively during debates

She did, but nobody cared or remembered when they voted. She was a terrible candidate though apart from that, it's not what you know, it's how you tell it.

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1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

She did, but nobody cared or remembered when they voted. She was a terrible candidate though apart from that, it's not what you know, it's how you tell it.

yeah, I think the consensus at the time was Hillary won the debates. 

Hard to narrow down what was her worst moment on the campaign trail though. Shutting down the banks won't solve racism or the 12 dollar fudge on a minimum wage were big ones, imo.

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1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

Austria is Hungarian. Germany is just a johnny-come-lately glue pot of commoner's hovels huddled together.

No Austria is Germany and Central Europe is a scam invented by Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians and everyone else around there to kid on they aren't Eastern European. 

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3 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

A Polish guy once got mad at me for saying Poland was in eastern Europe and not central Europe. I don't really get the problem but whatevs, central Europe if it upsets them.

Nobody wants to be lumped in with the Bulgarians.

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Some of the pish being peddled last time around on Russia fixing the election was just a way to avoid admiting that Hilary Clinton was simply an unpopular candidate who failed to skewer Herr Drumpf effectively during debates despite all the material she had to work with, and was the mirror image of what we are seeing now. Reality is that only the wacky electoral college system and lots of voter suppression  is keeping the Republicans in the game and Arizona and Georgia flipping this time will soon be Texas for demographic reasons because America's white majority is remoreselessly ebbing away. By 2030 at the very latest it will be game over completely  for the GOP as currently constituted in federal politics.

More palatable for Nixon's southern strategy devotees to drone on about Dominion voting machines than face up to a future where the Rose Tico style diversity types  and purple-haired Admiral Holdo style SJWs that they hate have the numbers and they don't. It's the suede/denim secret police they have come for your uncool niece...

 

The election wasn't fixed but there certainly were serious attempts by the Russians to direct the narrative on social media. 

 

 

It was part of the wider Agentstvo Internet-Issledovaniy (Glavset) agenda to sow distrust in Western political and media organisations and to undermine the Russian political opposition and those in its neighbours who might pose a threat to the Russian sphere of influence.

 

The point of the interference is not to influence actual elections but to make people distrust traditionally trustworthy news sources.

 

It should be no surprise that Glavset are also closely linked to Russia Today.

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

A Polish guy once got mad at me for saying Poland was in eastern Europe and not central Europe. I don't really get the problem but whatevs, central Europe if it upsets them.

The European part of Russia is larger than the next 19 countries combined.

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You do wonder how effective any Russian attempts to discredit western neoliberal media and politics were, compared to the output and policy outcomes of western neoliberal media and politics.

Some of it is clearly for consumption in Russia itself - discredit reputable media in the West means their own people are less likely to trust Western media sources.

 

Russian internet botting is as much about the narrative in Russia as it is in the countries they target.

 

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