John Lambies Doos Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54791144 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheScarf Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 The ultimate Sean Connery tribute imo. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Best thing they ever did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I thought it was fairly common knowledge that Giggs was a woman beater? Broke the nose of his ex (Davinia Taylor). A horrible c**t all round really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, J_Stewart said: I thought it was fairly common knowledge that Giggs was a woman beater? Broke the nose of his ex (Davinia Taylor). A horrible c**t all round really. Was that when he took out the super-injunction, so that the papers couldn't even report that there was an injunction in place? IIRC some MP shouted out his name in Parliament and that's when it came out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Hauzen said: Clyde manager in 2021. Depp as assistant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Couldn't file a super-injunction in time. Thanks covid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54791144 Argument over the forthcoming Welsh squad gone too far? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 It won't finish his career. It was no surprise that Giggs was a terrible person beforehand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Lviv Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Hauzen said: Clyde manager in 2021. Player manager* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, G51 said: It won't finish his career. It was no surprise that Giggs was a terrible person beforehand. unfortunately you are correct 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 It won't finish his career. It was no surprise that Giggs was a terrible person beforehand.It should 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, GordonD said: Was that when he took out the super-injunction, so that the papers couldn't even report that there was an injunction in place? IIRC some MP shouted out his name in Parliament and that's when it came out. Thought that was when he was shagging his brothers wife? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, GordonD said: Was that when he took out the super-injunction, so that the papers couldn't even report that there was an injunction in place? IIRC some MP shouted out his name in Parliament and that's when it came out. I thought that was about him pumping his brother‘s missus. Whether this latest allegation is true or not he’s clearly an odious person. Always thought he got off incredibly lightly with the brother thing, the media and public seemed to just forget about it. Compare that to the likes of Terry who (rightly) was vilified for what he done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, John Lambies Doos said: 25 minutes ago, G51 said: It won't finish his career. It was no surprise that Giggs was a terrible person beforehand. It should It should, but it takes *a lot* to end a career in football. Jon Flanagan hit his fiancee, got released by Liverpool and Rangers shamefully employed him. They knew it was the wrong thing to do because we denied we were signing him for as long as possible, right up until we unveiled him. And we did all this despite knowing he wasn't even very good! Leigh Griffiths has had multiple charges for racism and yet he's treated like a Celtic and Scotland legend. Neil Lennon threatened to stab his pregnant missus and it had zero effect on his career. Declan Gallagher served time for taking a baseball bat to a guys head and fracturing his skull, yet you'd never know it happened. And that's just Scottish football. There's a huge list of football personnel who commit indiscretions and get away with it. Even Adam Johnson was allowed to continue playing for Sunderland on bail while he was accused of being a nonce. And if it wasn't for the fact he's now 33, I guarantee someone would have signed him. Football has zero interest in reckoning with this. And to be fair, it's not alone, other sports are the same. It's tough to admit the people you idolise are flawed. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, G51 said: It should, but it takes *a lot* to end a career in football. Jon Flanagan hit his fiancee, got released by Liverpool and Rangers shamefully employed him. They knew it was the wrong thing to do because we denied we were signing him for as long as possible, right up until we unveiled him. And we did all this despite knowing he wasn't even very good! Leigh Griffiths has had multiple charges for racism and yet he's treated like a Celtic and Scotland legend. Neil Lennon threatened to stab his pregnant missus and it had zero effect on his career. Declan Gallagher served time for taking a baseball bat to a guys head and fracturing his skull, yet you'd never know it happened. And that's just Scottish football. There's a huge list of football personnel who commit indiscretions and get away with it. Even Adam Johnson was allowed to continue playing for Sunderland on bail while he was accused of being a nonce. And if it wasn't for the fact he's now 33, I guarantee someone would have signed him. Football has zero interest in reckoning with this. And to be fair, it's not alone, other sports are the same. It's tough to admit the people you idolise who might win you matches are flawed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, G51 said: It should, but it takes *a lot* to end a career in football. Jon Flanagan hit his fiancee, got released by Liverpool and Rangers shamefully employed him. They knew it was the wrong thing to do because we denied we were signing him for as long as possible, right up until we unveiled him. And we did all this despite knowing he wasn't even very good! Leigh Griffiths has had multiple charges for racism and yet he's treated like a Celtic and Scotland legend. Neil Lennon threatened to stab his pregnant missus and it had zero effect on his career. Declan Gallagher served time for taking a baseball bat to a guys head and fracturing his skull, yet you'd never know it happened. And that's just Scottish football. There's a huge list of football personnel who commit indiscretions and get away with it. Even Adam Johnson was allowed to continue playing for Sunderland on bail while he was accused of being a nonce. And if it wasn't for the fact he's now 33, I guarantee someone would have signed him. Football has zero interest in reckoning with this. And to be fair, it's not alone, other sports are the same. It's tough to admit the people you idolise are flawed. yeah. Can add Malky McKay to that list too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: yeah. Can add Malky McKay to that list too. It was always curious to me that when Malky Mackay was touted as a Scotland manager, there was talk of boycotts because of his past. Yet ask most Scotland fans what their best memory of the past decade was, and they'll tell you it was Griffith's free kicks in the 2-2 draw against England. His past never plays a part in the conversation about whether he should be called up - his fitness is only ever the concern. Like @Jacksgranda says above, perhaps the difference is that Griffiths is good and Mackay isn't? Edited November 3, 2020 by G51 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) I don't think examples of domestic violence and racism can be properly compared. In the cases of Mackay and Griffiths, anti-racism charities have (and will) actively discourage booting one-off offenders out of the game permanently, instead preferring to use them as examples of education that a casual racist text or chant in a pub can be just as damaging as saying the N word to someone's face. That might sound a bit fluffy and doesn't make their actions any less cretinous, but I do think that's a better approach than blanket zero-tolerance in terms of achieving anti-racism objectives. The public apology -> training course -> carry on and don't do again route isn't really open to domestic violence or sexual offenders though. Using the Adam Johnson example, I don't think clubs haven't picked him up again just because he's in his thirties. Likewise Goodwillie, who would probably still be playing in the top flight. Even at Thistle, we (eventually) shooed Adam Strachan and Jai Quitongo out the door for slapping their girlfriends about and, even if they weren't very good, I'm sure they'd still have had a much better shot at full-time football if clubs weren't looking at their criminal records. Any option outside punting him immediately does immense damage to the Welsh FA's reputation that I don't think even the British sporting press could save. I'd be stunned if he manages another game. Edited November 3, 2020 by AMMjag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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