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1 minute ago, Boo Khaki said:

Forward or backward is irrelevant. The difference is a fumble is a loss of possession and a live ball, a lateral is not, it's contiguous possession whether the lateral is actually successful or not.

But it's not irrelevant. That's the point I'm trying to make - calling this play dead even when the ball is fumbled backwards is stupid. The Holy Roller rule is designed to stop you deliberately fumbling the ball forward. That's not what happened here.

The referees called it right on the field, but the rule itself is bad.

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12 minutes ago, G51 said:

But it's not irrelevant. That's the point I'm trying to make - calling this play dead even when the ball is fumbled backwards is stupid. The Holy Roller rule is designed to stop you deliberately fumbling the ball forward. That's not what happened here.

The referees called it right on the field, but the rule itself is bad.

Not quite. That is and always has been covered by incomplete pass, illegal forward pass if it comes after a prior legal forward pass. The Holy Roller rule is there to stop players advancing the ball by any means after a fumble, but it's really there to prevent the ball being deliberately kicked or batted forwards by players attempting to 'recover' possession. Anyone can still dive on the ball, cover it up, and regain possession, just like Hunt did, the problem the Browns have in this instance though is that  possession was lost behind the 1st down line, so they turn it over on downs anyway.

There are far bigger issues with fumble rules than this one, primarily calling plays dead prematurely and preventing defenses legitimately recovering/advancing the ball

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6 minutes ago, lichtie23 said:

So is that the Jags confirmed as having the number 1 pick?

Yes...

3 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said:

AFAIK yes, because the SoS is such that it can't swing the other way even if every result went against the Jags

Correct...

https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2020/12/27/22201787/jaguars-lock-up-no-1-overall-pick-with-14th-loss-jets-victory

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Just now, Gogs Grog said:

Last thing from me on Mayfield fumble. This happened last week and was fine. But within 2 minutes from the end it's not

Yes, because why, in a scenario when the game is not on the line, and you are not about to lose anyway, would you deliberately 'fumble' the ball and attempt to bat or kick it forwards, when you can just call a conventional play and attempt to advance the ball with a far lower risk of turning it over?

It's a rule intended purely to prevent shithousery in do-or-die situations, and to that end, it works

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1 minute ago, Boo Khaki said:

Yes, because why, in a scenario when the game is not on the line, and you are not about to lose anyway, would you deliberately 'fumble' the ball and attempt to bat or kick it forwards, when you can just call a conventional play and attempt to advance the ball with a far lower risk of turning it over?

It's a rule intended purely to prevent shithousery in do-or-die situations, and to that end, it works

If this is the case, call the play dead when the ball is fumbled forwards.

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Just now, lichtie23 said:

What the f**k was Goff doing there?

He’s been asking for that. Adams could have picked him earlier and he’s had at least one pass batted down by a defensive lineman. 

Get the finger out Russ and start cooking!

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Just now, peasy23 said:
3 minutes ago, jagfox BLM said:
Goff is throwing some right wobbly spirals but keeps getting away with it the lanky c#@t!

If you were going for the reverse psychology, it just came up trumps.

Literally hit send as Diggs picked that effort 😂😂

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