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Currently playing through Monkey Island when I have spare time, the remaster is a lot of fun and reminds me a lot of Broken Sword.

Fallout 4 is terrific. I don't give a rat's ass how flimsy the story is, it's a great game to get lost in and a lot of replay possibilities. I didn't care much about the settlement building but I understand the appeal.

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2 hours ago, 54_and_counting said:

An absolutely stunning game considering the hardware at the time, completed it so so many times, 

It really is brilliant. I played the DX version on an emulator a year or so ago and it still holds up really well.

The Game Boy had some technically brilliant games for the limited hardware.

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48 minutes ago, Fuctifano said:

I voted for Monkey Island. Went for 1 over 2 mainly as the ending to 2 annoyed me. 3 might have been worth a vote just for the introduction of Murray the Skull, my favourite minor character in any video game ever. 

Just a brilliant game and I'm amazed my younger self in the pre Internet era had the patience to work out the puzzles - or most of them anyway, there was someone else in my year at school who had completed it before me and I was loath to ask him. 

Amazing how many lines of dialogue from the series have stuck with me over the years. Part of me would love one more (especially as the end of Tales of left it open) but part of me thinks it should be left as is.

Fallout 4 has been done to death on here. It was the first one in the series I played and I did like it but the building / defending settlements bit of it got boring quite quickly. 

Gilbert has been trying to get the rights to it back from Disney for a while now so he can make what he considers to be the 'true' third Monkey Island game. For what it's worth I thought Curse was also excellent but it's quite different to how he imagined the series going.

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10 hours ago, BFTD said:

Yeah, Monkey Island's great, and people who don't like it are the unicorns of the gaming world.

They're just jealous because they can't beat the Sword Master and get a fine t-shirt.

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Fallout 4 looked nice, gameplay was good, but I still prefer Fallout NV. NV > 4 > 3 IMO. New Vegas just had a charm, characters and storytelling that the others didn't.

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I'm going to say that I think, 76 aside, Fallout 4 was the weakest of the modern Fallout games.  It definitely had good elements, and it's not like it was anywhere close to bad, but several aspects of it could have been so much better.

Although come to think of it, Fallout 4 for me came right around the time Witcher 3 did.  I know they're not exactly the same, but I think a lot of the things Fallout didn't do very well, Witcher did far, far better.  And conversely, I'm not sure there was much that Fallout did that you could say "that's really brilliant".  It did everything to a solid level, when I'd have expected much better.  Witcher had its own issues (some of which were better in FO4) but the strengths it had pushed it ahead in my mind.

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Well I'm certainly glad I got bored of Fallout 3 so i didn't have to get involved in these debates. 

Good game but I'm one that usually goes off to the wilderness and explores in these games but pretty much everywhere I went I would die pretty quickly, I think the fact I stopped playing so quickly was my mates had got further ahead and had given me major spoilers which kinda ruined it. I think I spent most of my time trying to kill everyone in the town with the bomb in the middle. 

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18 hours ago, NotThePars said:

I'm going to fight the "user" here.

New Vegas was far better than 3 and 4 because it wasn't written by genuine morons and didn't have the luxury of fucking loads of years to make the game. I still find it hilarious that Bethesda tried to force a binary good/ bad decision on you at the end of the game and yet allowed you to bring a character immune to radiation with you along for the ride who offers the weakest of excuses for why he can't resolve the dumb stakes the writers force on you with some "it's not my destiny chief" and then they retconned it anyway because the gamers got mad.

4 is fine. It tried to make the actual playing of Fallout better and it's a really aesthetically well designed world but like every Bethesda game it's wafer thin and filled with the dullest and dumbest writing that removes any incentive to stick with the game once the initial buzz wears off.

Josh Sawyer deserves enormous credit for never shit-talking Todd Howard or Bethesda for how they clearly tried to throttle the reception Obsidian got for New Vegas being the proper successor to Fallout and being a genuinely well-written and interesting game to play. There's a reason why that game still dominates discussions and the others don't.

Bring it on, punk

17 hours ago, BFTD said:

The Bethesda Fallout series has been very odd for me. I loved Fallout 3, from the setting down to the characters and quests. New Vegas had a less interesting setting (for me), less intricate quests and shit like Roman legions running around because there's an ancient Rome themed casino in real life Las Vegas. Played it for a while, but lost interest by the end as I really couldn't give a f**k about Las Vegas tropes.

Fallout 4 simplified everything again and added in more shit that I couldn't care less about, like building utterly pointless settlements. Also, the main story was almost offensively disposable. Then Fallout 76 came out and got rid of NPCs and quests, but introduced other people to ruin your immersion and microtransactions.

I'm not sure how they could make the next game appeal to me less. No combat? Maybe have it take place entirely before the war and give you a government job processing paperwork? Give you a constant sidekick played by Catherine Tate doing one of her hilarious comedy characters? The mind boggles.

Pretty much this - apart from 4. I've tried to get into NV at least 3 or 4 times and just found it utterly dull.

7 hours ago, GiGi said:

Fallout 4 looked nice, gameplay was good, but I still prefer Fallout NV. NV > 4 > 3 IMO. New Vegas just had a charm, characters and storytelling that the others didn't.

This gets bandied about so often I actually think its one of those things that people have just started to believe is true.

 

3 hours ago, forameus said:

I'm going to say that I think, 76 aside, Fallout 4 was the weakest of the modern Fallout games.  It definitely had good elements, and it's not like it was anywhere close to bad, but several aspects of it could have been so much better.

Although come to think of it, Fallout 4 for me came right around the time Witcher 3 did.  I know they're not exactly the same, but I think a lot of the things Fallout didn't do very well, Witcher did far, far better.  And conversely, I'm not sure there was much that Fallout did that you could say "that's really brilliant".  It did everything to a solid level, when I'd have expected much better.  Witcher had its own issues (some of which were better in FO4) but the strengths it had pushed it ahead in my mind.

I was going to question whether you can really say a game is bad because it could have been better, but you're edit about Witcher makes more sense. 

Maybe I have a skewed opinion of 4 because of the number of mods I had installed, particularly ones that expanded the settlement building and removed a lot of the annoyances around placement etc. Maybe if I just played the base game I'd have a lower opinion of it

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1 hour ago, Mr X said:

I was going to question whether you can really say a game is bad because it could have been better, but you're edit about Witcher makes more sense. 

Maybe I have a skewed opinion of 4 because of the number of mods I had installed, particularly ones that expanded the settlement building and removed a lot of the annoyances around placement etc. Maybe if I just played the base game I'd have a lower opinion of it

I wouldn't call it a bad game at all.  I just think it was a missed opportunity, like they polished every element to solid and then stopped, rather than making sure it was as good as it could be.  I never quite got into mods, so my opinion is uncoloured by that.  I expect they cover up a lot of the problems it had and made things better.  

Although given the high-profile cases of games not being quite what they should have been, somehow having a game being criticised for being "just solid" seems quite quaint.

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1 hour ago, Mr X said:

Pretty much this - apart from 4. I've tried to get into NV at least 3 or 4 times and just found it utterly dull.

I think setting maybe has a big part to play in how interesting a Fallout game is to me and, outside of the Strip, most folk don't know (or care) an awful lot about Las Vegas and Nevada. It did just seem very bland. Still fun enough to play, but didn't keep me engaged in the same way.

Also a bit weird how venomous some fans of New Vegas can be about Fallout 3. Not saying anyone here is, but there are people online who hate that game, but think New Vegas is the greatest thing ever. I have my own preference, but I don't think there's that much difference between them.

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Speaking of NV, did anyone on here have a go at the Frontier mod?

I downloaded it before I knew that one of the modders was really fucking weird and the slavery stuff came out, but I ended up binning it about an hour in anyway. Holy f**k, what a disaster of a mod that was.

Even if you didn't know anything about that guys artwork, you could tell the lads making that mod were not normal (of course they weren't, they're modders, but still).

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4 minutes ago, G51 said:

Speaking of NV, did anyone on here have a go at the Frontier mod?

Never heard of it, but I'll certainly be looking into it after that description!  :lol:

I saw there's one called New California that's had good reviews. Anyone played that?

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36 minutes ago, BFTD said:

I think setting maybe has a big part to play in how interesting a Fallout game is to me and, outside of the Strip, most folk don't know (or care) an awful lot about Las Vegas and Nevada. It did just seem very bland. Still fun enough to play, but didn't keep me engaged in the same way.

Also a bit weird how venomous some fans of New Vegas can be about Fallout 3. Not saying anyone here is, but there are people online who hate that game, but think New Vegas is the greatest thing ever. I have my own preference, but I don't think there's that much difference between them.

Never played Fallout until I tried 3 during uni around 9 years ago. Played it solid for about 2 nights but never touched it since, just couldn't get into it and I love an open world, infact I loved 4 but 3 I just couldn't connect to. 

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8 minutes ago, madwullie said:

Definitely enjoyed whichever fallouts I played, but they are in a very hazy part of my life and I couldn't really tell you too much about them. 

Fucking love a post-apocalyptic setting mind you

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