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I'll be honest here, as a Scot we shouldn't celebrate the failure of England. As an ardent nationalist, the anti-English vibe is unhelpful and somewhat parochial. That said, it's with no relief that Italy won.


Nah, f**k them. They treat us with utter contempt so I will take a massive amount of pleasure in watching their hearts being broken yet again. It nourishes me.
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1 minute ago, Ric said:

Fighting talk, eh? :P

We shouldn't revel in an English defeat, we've been doing that since 1314... instead we should get behind a (possible) Scottish victory!

It may have escaped you but Scotland were not playing in tonight’s match Richard (the blue team were Italy).

Thus revealing in the defeat of another sporting team’s hubris is perfectly normal.

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6 minutes ago, Ric said:

I'll be honest here, as a Scot we shouldn't celebrate the failure of England. As an ardent nationalist, the anti-English vibe is unhelpful and somewhat parochial. That said, it's with no relief that Italy won.

 

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5 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

 

and a screenshot, since he'll delete it when he sobers up.

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Whole number of bizarre tweets on his account. Clearly taking it excellently

 

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Just now, jamamafegan said:

Nah, f**k them. They treat us with no tree contempt so I will take a massive amount of pleasure in watching their hearts being broken again. It nourishes me.

I totally get that, I similarly devour such morsels put before me, but equally I realise that independence shouldn't rely on the failure of others.

That said, I fully concur with anyone who suggested I raised my fists and shouted "yes" as Sako missed his penalty.

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Probably a discussion for another day .. but Southgate played Kane so deep it was strange .. all the "experts" saying he was out of form but not seeing he was the top of the diamond/midfield/whatever .. he only ever got into the box when he fed a player wide and continued his run into the box .. where he scored four times.
Otherwise he was just in the midfield mix and wasted.
Your pundits were giving it - Kane is dropping deep tonight and dragging the Italians all over the place. England lose and Southgate gets blamed for playing Kane so deep.

Quite amusing that the system that got England to the final is now under scrutiny. To the surprise of absolutely no one.
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2 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

 


Nah, f**k them. They treat us with utter contempt so I will take a massive amount of pleasure in watching their hearts being broken yet again. It nourishes me.

 

ffs .. trust me, only moonhowlers are talking about Scotland tonight. Why would England care about how well the Scotland team is doing more than, say, Celtic care about how Falkirk are doing. Yeah, they are close by but .. ffs.. get real .. 

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1 minute ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

It may have escaped you but Scotland were not playing in tonight’s match Richard (the blue team were Italy).

Thus revealing in the defeat of another sporting team’s hubris is perfectly normal.

Don't be distracted by my magnanimous reaction to the result, I derive great pleasure from England losing. ;)

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I’m with Danny Baker here. That’s a massive f**k up from the Badger. I’ve no idea where he can go from here. A semi and a final with it on a plate coming up to pens and he makes some dreadful decisions. How much does he get paid along with the rest of the back room staff? 
 

The goodwill of the nation will carry him through though including all that invasion shit he came away with.  I reckon they’ll be QF at best in the World Cup with Southgate.

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I see Southgate's tactics are under fire. Yes, they were negative and boring, but they worked for the most part. They got England to a final even though some of their more talented attacking players were given limited game time. In particular, Foden and Sancho did not get much time on the field. The only time other than tonight I saw England really struggle was against Scotland and I think that's what spooked him. England were bested in midfield by a side that, from our own admission, are no world beaters. From there, the shape changed to a more Conservative approach. 

The use of Grealish seems to take most the heat, but what did he offer tonight? Southgate has him bang to right - a luxury player that cannot be trusted when the going gets tough because he is totally useless in a scrap. 

 

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1 minute ago, 19QOS19 said:

Your pundits were giving it - Kane is dropping deep tonight and dragging the Italians all over the place. England lose and Southgate gets blamed for playing Kane so deep.

Quite amusing that the system that got England to the final is now under scrutiny. To the surprise of absolutely no one.

Yeah .. all true .. thats the thing with the "goals win games, defences win tournaments" thing .. when it fails it makes you look a right unimaginative c**t. when it works its garlands all round.

He got credit for sticking to his gameplan .. but now it blew up .. ???

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3 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

 

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Not sure the point you are making, it's difficult to process combined with officially the worst comedian in the world being shown in gif format, but be aware, as Scots we only look small minded when celebrating an English defeat. No matter the amount of joy that brings, and trust me it's considerable, any nationalist has to rationalist that emotion.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fucking ecstatic England lost, but ultimately we need to move on from that singular dimension. We are more than just the rivals to England.

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