jakedee Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Take a look at the National Grid over the last month and fossil fuels have produced over 50% of electricity generation. Wind is minimal.Scotland produces more electricity than it uses, hence it "exports" so much. It was over 90% renewable. Even,if as you suggest the "wind doesn't blow"( 6 days in a year according to the link I posted), hydro,tidal,wave and solar pick up the slack.The national grid is UK wide, how the rUK decide to produce electricity is their concern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Take a look at the National Grid over the last month and fossil fuels have produced over 50% of electricity generation. Wind is minimal.[emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 8 hours ago, jakedee said: Scotland produces more electricity than it uses, hence it "exports" so much. It was over 90% renewable. Even,if as you suggest the "wind doesn't blow"( 6 days in a year according to the link I posted), hydro,tidal,wave and solar pick up the slack. The national grid is UK wide, how the rUK decide to produce electricity is their concern. As a unionist, the UK is my country. What Scotland produces alone is just part of the National Grid. Just like the subsidy Scotland receives from London and the SE it’s called ‘pulling and sharing’ -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 As a unionist, the UK is my country. What Scotland produces alone is just part of the National Grid. Just like the subsidy Scotland receives from London and the SE it’s called ‘pulling and sharing’[emoji2357] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 48 minutes ago, jakedee said: Okay, so how significant do those charges translate into electricity consumer prices between the regions of the UK? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Okay, so how significant do those charges translate into electricity consumer prices between the regions of the UK? It shows that, not only is electricity per KW/hr more expensive to purchase, if you are unfortunate enough to live in the North of Scotland (where cheaper mains gas is not always an option).It also costs generating companies more to put that electricity into the grid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 "Pulling and sharing" dear fucking god. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 There's been numerous environmentalists in the media over the last few weeks pointing out that the issue with renewables in the UK is not the capacity for generation but the capacity for storage. We simply don't have enough to take advantage of the windy days, notwithstanding tidal and wave power seems to be hugely underexploited. I would be keen in the first instance to move towards renewables with back up from new nuclear, which could then be phased out in 30 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Is there going to be loads of rioting and violence at this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, jakedee said: It shows that, not only is electricity per KW/hr more expensive to purchase, if you are unfortunate enough to live in the North of Scotland (where cheaper mains gas is not always an option).It also costs generating companies more to put that electricity into the grid. I think you’re saying that it isn’t all that significant to the end user so, as we all live in the same country, who cares? Maybe to a separatist, but not to a unionist. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Aladdin said: There's been numerous environmentalists in the media over the last few weeks pointing out that the issue with renewables in the UK is not the capacity for generation but the capacity for storage. We simply don't have enough to take advantage of the windy days, notwithstanding tidal and wave power seems to be hugely underexploited. I would be keen in the first instance to move towards renewables with back up from new nuclear, which could then be phased out in 30 years. I think you are correct. In the meantime we need to rely on fossil fuels and nuclear until the storage question has been fully addressed.. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Aladdin said: There's been numerous environmentalists in the media over the last few weeks pointing out that the issue with renewables in the UK is not the capacity for generation but the capacity for storage. We simply don't have enough to take advantage of the windy days, notwithstanding tidal and wave power seems to be hugely underexploited. I would be keen in the first instance to move towards renewables with back up from new nuclear, which could then be phased out in 30 years. Whilst that is undoubtably true, one of the easiest ways we can take the strain off of the grid is to utilise district / communal heating supplies. Every household heating their own water tank and radiators is madness, when such a simple and environmentally friendly solution is possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: Whilst that is undoubtably true, one of the easiest ways we can take the strain off of the grid is to utilise district / communal heating supplies. Every household heating their own water tank and radiators is madness, when such a simple and environmentally friendly solution is possible. I listened to a fascinating thing about local or community DC generating grids which could power "above the table" low power devices like phones TVs laptops and stuff while the national AC grid would power your "below the table" high power devices like washing machines and ovens. Sounded like a good idea to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Is there going to be loads of rioting and violence at this? Undoubtably. George Square for the big Hippy/Insulate Britain/Antifa vs Usual Glasgow itching for a fight mob, could be a genuine no go at times if the police can’t keep a lid on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Is there going to be loads of rioting and violence at this? Whilst not encouraging of outright violence, if Insulate Britain/XR etc want an opportunity to protest, this is it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Insulate Britain and Extinction Rebellion aren't going do any rioting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Is there going to be loads of rioting and violence at this? Hopefully 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Insulate Britain and Extinction Rebellion aren't going do any rioting. Likely not but, as always seems to happen at these events, you get the more extreme anti-capitalist, anti-globalist left wingers/anarchists who attach themselves to the protests. And Glasgow does seem to have its contingent of union jack worshipping, statue saving borderline facists who wont pass up an opportunity to scrap with anyone who appears to be slightly to the left of Nigel Farage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 When they had G7 a few years ago the rabble was described as "anti globalisation protestors" despite there being no such thing. Whoever kicks off, real protestor or agent provocateur, they'll have a Gammon pleasing description ready to go. "Anti-civilisation activists" i reckon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: Is there going to be loads of rioting and violence at this? Nah. Some token protests and maybe like one politician gets harassed and everyone spends a week doxxing the protestor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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