TheNavigateur Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Hi! I'm just wondering about your opnions on the "world's constitution" as published here: https://theworldsconstitution.com What would you change? Do you think it's a good idea overall? Etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 39 minutes ago, TheNavigateur said: Hi! I'm just wondering about your opnions on the "world's constitution" as published here: https://theworldsconstitution.com What would you change? Do you think it's a good idea overall? Etc. On the face it, the ideas all appear to be noble. However, I can't help but think that it ignores that the world is made up of different peoples with various evolutionary stories, meaning they don't think or act the same, hence the wildly diverging cultures we have across the globe. Any attempt to have them all operating under the same rules is doomed to failure IMO. What's the aim of the website anyway? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNavigateur Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Scott Steiner said: However, I can't help but think that it ignores that the world is made up of different peoples with various evolutionary stories, meaning they don't think or act the same, hence the wildly diverging cultures we have across the globe. Are varied cultures not a result of the varied exertion of dictatorial geopolitical power, as opposed to permanent differences that reflect the same actions that would take place if they were in a democratic setting instead? 20 hours ago, Scott Steiner said: Any attempt to have them all operating under the same rules is doomed to failure IMO. Would you be comfortable elaborating on how you define "failure" in this scenario? Do you see the brutal wars throughout history until the present day, mostly hurting the innocent, as failure too? Do you not see the separated decision making as any contributing factor in escalating these wars? 20 hours ago, Scott Steiner said: What's the aim of the website anyway? The answer it would seem to me appears in the preamble? "to seek justice, to maximize the happiness for all and to minimize the suffering for any" Edited December 25, 2021 by TheNavigateur 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 21 hours ago, TheNavigateur said: Hi! I'm just wondering about your opnions on the "world's constitution" as published here: https://theworldsconstitution.com What would you change? Do you think it's a good idea overall? Etc. Disband Rangers and the Mountain Rescue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On the face it, the ideas all appear to be noble. However, I can't help but think that it ignores that the world is made up of different peoples with various evolutionary stories, meaning they don't think or act the same, hence the wildly diverging cultures we have across the globe. Any attempt to have them all operating under the same rules is doomed to failure IMO. What's the aim of the website anyway?A genuinely federal structure with decisions taken at the right level would deal with that - but it ain't going to happen because there's too many people who would undermine the democratic process to protect their self-interests. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Disband Rangers and the Mountain Rescue. How many mountains are needing rescued? I suppose if Ben Nevis had the choice it might decide to move away from Fort William... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 21 hours ago, TheNavigateur said: Are varied cultures not a result of the varied exertion of dictatorial geopolitical power, as opposed to permanent differences that reflect the same actions that would take place if they were in a democratic setting instead? Would you be comfortable elaborating on how you define "failure" in this scenario? Do you see the brutal wars throughout history until the present day, mostly hurting the innocent, as failure too? Do you not see the separated decision making as any contributing factor in escalating these wars? The answer it would seem to me appears in the preamble? "to seek justice, to maximize the happiness for all and to minimize the suffering for any" I'd say cultures are the result of many things, which undoubtedly indeed include the various power structures that exist around the globe. Environment, race/ethnicity and even aspects such as population size, how communities are set up, religions etc have more to do with it IMO. I do absolutely see wars as a failure, and a huge one at that. As I say, I think your points are noble but I don't see how they could work due to the nature of existing cultures, which include political cultures. How would you get China to take notice for example? Are you the owner of the website and are you trying to influence politicians with it? Are you part of an organisation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 On 24/12/2021 at 15:52, Scott Steiner said: However, I can't help but think that it ignores that the world is made up of different peoples with various evolutionary stories, meaning they don't think or act the same, hence the wildly diverging cultures we have across the globe. D-Von! Get the skull calipers! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 47 minutes ago, NotThePars said: D-Von! Get the skull calipers! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfha Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 On 24/12/2021 at 15:10, TheNavigateur said: Hi! I'm just wondering about your opnions on the "world's constitution" as published here: https://theworldsconstitution.com What would you change? Do you think it's a good idea overall? Etc. How the fu*k did you find this. A google search for a world constitution wouldn't exactly be high on my agenda! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNavigateur Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 18 hours ago, oaksoft said: Hypocrisy, selfishness and greed are hard-wired into the human brain. 1. I think all those 3 things mean the same thing. 2. I think they exist only when we don't consider others - but our reaction of discomfort when we see an innocent person suffer is also completely natural. 18 hours ago, oaksoft said: Racist views included? Conspiracy Theory lies included? Yes of course. How can those things be counteracted if they are not heard? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) On 24/12/2021 at 15:10, TheNavigateur said: Hi! I'm just wondering about your opnions on the "world's constitution" as published here: https://theworldsconstitution.com What would you change? Do you think it's a good idea overall? Etc. If media companies are forced to publish every opinion with equal weight, how do we filter out the boring and moronic ones to have time to read the well thought out and interesting ones? Edited December 28, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 24/12/2021 at 15:10, TheNavigateur said: Hi! I'm just wondering about your opnions on the "world's constitution" as published here: https://theworldsconstitution.com What would you change? Do you think it's a good idea overall? Etc. Article one, first sentence is about 120 words of circumlocution and drivel. I could barely be arsed finishing that sentence. I think they want free speech. Groundbreaking. We the People need to learn to write if they want to make any impact with this sort of thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 25/12/2021 at 11:48, TheNavigateur said: Are varied cultures not a result of the varied exertion of dictatorial geopolitical power, as opposed to permanent differences that reflect the same actions that would take place if they were in a democratic setting instead? this is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 this is the stupidest thing I’ve ever readI’m offended by the implication that he’s been blocking my posts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Is it only available in English? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 27/12/2021 at 15:49, welshbairn said: If media companies are forced to publish every opinion with equal weight, how do we filter out the boring and moronic ones to have time to read the well thought out and interesting ones? They should be quite easy to identity? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNavigateur Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) On 27/12/2021 at 15:49, welshbairn said: If media companies are forced to publish every opinion with equal weight, how do we filter out the boring and moronic ones to have time to read the well thought out and interesting ones? If media companies are not forced to publish every opinion with equal weight, how do we know what they are publishing is not propaganda designed to further their owners' interests? I have never found an opinion boring, but if there is a case for it, it is surely when the same opinion is repeated, which is the case with propaganda? Or if there is a representative body "filtering" the opinions, simply majority opinion repeated? Surely a representative cross section of all opinion is the least boring option? As for moronic, I think that becomes clear in the course of debate between those with different opinions, whereas often "moronic" ideas can otherwise fester as conventional wisdom due to repetition whether it's in the case of owner propaganda or majoritarian filtering... don't you think? Edited December 30, 2021 by TheNavigateur 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TheNavigateur said: If media companies are not forced to publish every opinion with equal weight, how do we know what they are publishing is not propaganda designed to further their owners' interests? I have never found an opinion boring, but if there is a case for it, it is surely when the same opinion is repeated, which is the case with propaganda? Or if there is a representative body "filtering" the opinions, simply majority opinion repeated? Surely a representative cross section of all opinion is the least boring option? As for moronic, I think that becomes clear in the course of debate between those with different opinions, whereas often "moronic" ideas can otherwise fester as conventional wisdom due to repetition whether it's in the case of owner propaganda or majoritarian filtering... don't you think? Quality matters, I'm not going to pay to read random unedited opinions, I want well written pieces by people who know the the subject well, hopefully with specialist knowledge gained through experience. I wouldn't be able to find them if every opinion is given equal weight. Edited December 30, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, TheNavigateur said: If media companies are not forced to publish every opinion with equal weight, how do we know what they are publishing is not propaganda designed to further their owners' interests? I have never found an opinion boring, but if there is a case for it, it is surely when the same opinion is repeated, which is the case with propaganda? Or if there is a representative body "filtering" the opinions, simply majority opinion repeated? Surely a representative cross section of all opinion is the least boring option? As for moronic, I think that becomes clear in the course of debate between those with different opinions, whereas often "moronic" ideas can otherwise fester as conventional wisdom due to repetition whether it's in the case of owner propaganda or majoritarian filtering... don't you think? This is a good example of why not all opinions should be listened to. Absolutely incoherent drivel. You wrote that constitution thingy didn't you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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