Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, sophia said: Your name will also go on the list. What is it? Don't tell him Shchuka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Reports of a strike on an airbase in Dzasnkhoi, Crimea tonight - very dark video clips on Telegram, pretty much impossible to verify. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Reports of a strike on an airbase in Dzasnkhoi, Crimea tonight - very dark video clips on Telegram, pretty much impossible to verify. If correct this would be about 150 km from the Dnipro River. 150km due south of the Kherson and Zaporizhzhya front-lines would reach the coast of the Sea of Azov. That could make road transportation of military and supplies etc between Crimea and Mariupol under threat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Thank goodness we didn't listen to Zelensky. 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: He's got a bit of a habit of getting ahead of himself in calling for NATO to get directly involved. There must be one or two leaders in NATO slightly nervous about whether or not he can be trusted not to order his troops to continue in to Russia should Ukranian forces reach the border. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 36 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Reports of a strike on an airbase in Dzasnkhoi, Crimea tonight - very dark video clips on Telegram, pretty much impossible to verify. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 //www.euronews.com/tag/crimea Ukraine war: 'Likely Kyiv counterattack' in Crimea, Kerch Bridge threat, Zaporizhzhia conditions By Alasdair Sandford with AP, AFP, Reuters • Updated: 17/08/2022 1. Crimea attacks 'likely part of Ukrainian counteroffensive' Explosions at key Russian positions in occupied Crimea on Tuesday were "likely part of a coherent Ukrainian counteroffensive to regain control of the west bank of the Dnipro River," according to the US think-tank the Institute for the Study of War (ISW). Meanwhile, British defence intelligence said that "Russian commanders will highly likely be increasingly concerned with the apparent deterioration in security across Crimea, which functions as a rear base area for the occupation". Detonations at an ammunition depot near Dzhankoi were continuing on Wednesday following the previous day's explosions and fires that Russia acknowledged were "an act of sabotage". It was a vivid reminder of Russia's vulnerability in Crimea and led to chaotic scenes when around 3,000 people had to be evacuated. "A nearby railway and electricity sub-station were also likely damaged," said the UK defence ministry's daily update, adding that "smoke was rising from near Gvardeyskoye Airbase" in central Crimea, according to Russian media. Gvardeyskoye and Dzhankoi "are home to two of the most important Russian military airfields in Crimea", British intelligence said. Ministry of Defence @DefenceHQ United Kingdom government organization Latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine - 17 August 2022 Find out more about the UK government's response: http://ow.ly/4Z5r50KlwMH #StandWithUkraine What the f**k is that formatting? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Message deleted. Turned out to be way old. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 A reasonably plausible theory on how the Ukrainians could hit Dzhankoy with HIMARS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Elixir said: Was just about to post something similar as I see he is still adamant that it was not anything to do with Ukraine, when even the US first response is not to look to blame Russia you know it's a fair cop. Stop digging the hole and beginning to get the court of public opinion starting to question a lot of your other claims that are made when you are, by and large, accepted to be the victim here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: Was just about to post something similar as I see he is still adamant that it was not anything to do with Ukraine, when even the US first response is not to look to blame Russia you know it's a fair cop. Stop digging the hole and beginning to get the court of public opinion starting to question a lot of your other claims that are made when you are, by and large, accepted to be the victim here. Indeed. He needs to take the L here and move on. I just can't comprehend how he, and many other Ukrainians, are unable to see where NATO going to war with Russia could ultimately lead, regardless of how desperate they may feel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 //www.novinite.com/articles/217588/Day+267+of+the+Invasion+of+Ukraine%3A+The+EU+holds+Russia+responsible+for+the+missiles+in+Poland Two articles on same page . EU blaming Russia for being in Ukraine anyway and without that this incident would not have happened. Then Poland saying Russia was not the direct cause of this particular incident. If the Russians hadn't invaded then this could not have happened. Simples! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dev said: If the Russians hadn't invaded then this could not have happened. Simples! That's the principle that applies where I am to traffic accidents involving foreigners - by default it's their fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dev said: //www.novinite.com/articles/217588/Day+267+of+the+Invasion+of+Ukraine%3A+The+EU+holds+Russia+responsible+for+the+missiles+in+Poland Two articles on same page . EU blaming Russia for being in Ukraine anyway and without that this incident would not have happened. Then Poland saying Russia was not the direct cause of this particular incident. If the Russians hadn't invaded then this could not have happened. Simples! "Well if they hadn't been Nazis we wouldn't have had to invade. Put that in your smoke and pipe it!" Said the Russian Ambassador. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Impressive toys they have.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 That's what I'll be doing when rockets and cruise missiles are screaming over my house. I'll nip in to the garden to film it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Impressive toys they have.. Yard looks nice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Elixir said: Indeed. He needs to take the L here and move on. I just can't comprehend how he, and many other Ukrainians, are unable to see where NATO going to war with Russia could ultimately lead, regardless of how desperate they may feel.... One stray missile landing on a farm very close to the border wasn't going to start a war so people are making much too much out of this. Something clearly aimed at the Rzeszow air base would be a different story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 "Talking" of stray missiles: Extracts: //www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63637625 BBC News Europe 17th November 2022 MH17: Three guilty as court finds Russia-controlled group downed airliner By Anna Holligan & Kate Vandy A Dutch court has found three men guilty of murder for shooting down a passenger jet over eastern Ukraine in 2014, killing 298 people. The court found that a Russian-made missile supplied from Russia and fired by an armed group under Russian control brought down flight MH17. Silene Fredriksz lost her 23-year-old son when MH17 was shot down over Ukraine "It was heartbreaking for us," Silene says. She is convinced the current conflict could have been avoided had the world taken a harder line in 2014. "Putin has never been stopped, and still has not been stopped. And he will not stop until he is stopped," Silene said. I hope the world wakes up now, because we knew it already eight years ago." Russia has always denied any involvement and instead pumped out a range of alternative theories - suggesting a Ukrainian fighter jet fired the missile, or that Ukrainian government forces were responsible, and in some cases fabricated evidence to support their claims. These have in turn been diligently debunked with material gathered by a team of international investigators, and they were rejected by the Dutch court. The team found the disintegration of the plane in mid-air was caused by the detonation of a Russian-made 9N314M-type warhead carried on the 9M38M1 missile, launched from the eastern part of Ukraine using a Buk missile system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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beefybake Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 20 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: He's got a bit of a habit of getting ahead of himself in calling for NATO to get directly involved. There must be one or two leaders in NATO slightly nervous about whether or not he can be trusted not to order his troops to continue in to Russia should Ukranian forces reach the border. Only in your ever-contrarian dreams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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