jagfox Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Aye, I'd go with the Challeger as well. I prefer a nice Sherman... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 On 28/08/2022 at 08:17, ICTChris said: A Russian mercenary carrying out a performance using the skull of a dead Ukrainian soldier. Reveal hidden contents [\spoiler] On 28/08/2022 at 08:22, ICTChris said: The guy with the skull is called Igor Mangushev. He founded a PMC during the initial invasion of the Donbas. It was closely linked to the FSB and became involved in organised crime, carrying out extortion and theft until they clearly picked on the wrong person and were prosecuted. Mangushev wasn’t prosecuted and is clearly still involved in the war. This guy was killed in Ukraine in the last week or so. Big loss. Very sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Are we giving Ukraine our earlier versions of the eurofighter? Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky will arrive in the UK today, in his first visit since Russia's invasion of Ukraine last year. The UK government said he would meet British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and make a speech in Parliament later. It has also announced that British training of Ukrainian forces will be expanded to cover fighter jet pilots and marines. It's also expected the UK will announce fresh sanctions targeting Russia later. Plans have been announced to train Ukrainian pilots to fly Nato-standard fighter jets in the future, a key request from Ukraine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 5 hours ago, renton said: The Leopard 1 has wafer thin, mostly steel armour. The UK would do better trying to buy back some of the Jordanian stored Challenger 1s (nearly 400 in storage, I think?). 28 tonnes of extra (composite) armour, a bigger gun with access to depleted uranium penetrators vs. The Leopard 1, better thermal sights and a proven combat record against those T-72s. With the MEXAS upgrade, they are tolerable…but they are mechanically identical to equipment the Ukrainians are already using, which is a huge bonus. The 1A5 has thermal sights like the 1…they both can use DU munitions, but no one is supplying those right now, that’s another huge step (and the last experiences with DU munitions make them a concern in any populated are). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Looks like things are hotting up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/08/standing-room-only-as-zelenskiy-delivers-a-lesson-in-leadership "Just occasionally Westminster can raise its game. Though it usually takes someone from outside to make it happen. A British royal or a foreign head of state. But few visitors have been given the reception granted to Volodymyr Zelenskiy. Not merely extended applause. But a sense of awe. A patriot for any age. An inspirational leader whose country has been at war for nearly a year and who hasn’t once gone missing. Not something we are used to in the UK. Here the nurses and the paramedics are out on strike and you don’t see our government for dust." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 f**k sake lads. If we send fighter jets to Ukraine, @virginton's heid will explode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 hours ago, jagfox said: Panther tanks rolling across Ukraine again... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Russian wunderwaffe turns out not to be as indestructable as claimed, if this guy is to be believed: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, bennett said: Panther tanks rolling across Ukraine again... It was Tiger tanks that trundled their way to Leningrad, Moscow, Stalingrad and Grozny back in WWII. Would have thought they would have avoided the big cat angle given that backdrop but looks like they are no longer bothered about that sort of thing and changing defence ministers recently has completely changed the German approach on sending their panzers across the Dnieper. Massive German rearmament, what could possibly go wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: It was Tiger tanks that trundled their way to Leningrad, Moscow, Stalingrad and Grozny back in WWII. Would have thought they would have avoided the big cat angle given that backdrop but looks like they are no longer bothered about that sort of thing and changing defence ministers recently has completely changed the German approach on sending their panzers across the Dnieper. Massive German rearmament, what could possibly go wrong. There were more panthers(panzer mk V) than tigers(panzer mk VI).and neither of them trundled to Stalingrad,moscow or grozny Edited February 9, 2023 by highlandcowden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 According to this the Russians tanks got properly battered the other day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, highlandcowden said: There were more panthers(panzer mk V) than tigers(panzer mk VI).and neither of them trundled to Stalingrad,moscow or grozny Should have done some googling before posting that obviously. Are you sure on Stalingrad and Grozny? The Tiger tanks appear to have entered service in 1942. The angle I find more interesting is they would still use the Panther name if there's a WWII angle. Have sometimes seen it argued there was more continuity between the Third Reich and the Federal Republic of Germany in "deep state" sort of terms than is usually acknowledged. Edited February 10, 2023 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: Should have done some googling before posting that obviously. Are you sure on Stalingrad and Grozny? The Tiger tanks appear to have entered service in 1942. The angle I find more interesting is they would still use the Panther name if there's a WWII angle. Have sometimes seen it argued there was more continuity between the Third Reich and the Federal Republic of Germany in "deep state" sort of terms than is usually acknowledged. Absolutely certain,yes I agree that tanks with these names appeàring might be a massive pr own goal,Russians have even more of a ww2 obsession than the brits Edited February 10, 2023 by highlandcowden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 15 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: It was Tiger tanks that trundled their way to Leningrad, Moscow, Stalingrad and Grozny back in WWII. Would have thought they would have avoided the big cat angle given that backdrop but looks like they are no longer bothered about that sort of thing and changing defence ministers recently has completely changed the German approach on sending their panzers across the Dnieper. Massive German rearmament, what could possibly go wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 The tank thing was addressed by Vlad a few days ago. German tanks with crosses attacking Russia was along the lines he mentioned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Missiles sent earlier today - 40 Kalibr and a lot of s-300s. Maybe another tranche at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, welshbairn said: According to this the Russians tanks got properly battered the other day. I'm guessing there is an element of human nature in it but, if I've learnt anything from copious volumes of these videos, hiding in the trees really isn't a great solution. Edited February 10, 2023 by Alert Mongoose 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Should have done some googling before posting that obviously. Are you sure on Stalingrad and Grozny? The Tiger tanks appear to have entered service in 1942. 4 hours ago, highlandcowden said: Absolutely certain,yes 100% correct, the first real use of the Tiger I was Kursk, in 1943...the earliest use in mid/late 1942 at Leningrad, and they were too late to try to release Stalingrad a little later. The Panther debuted in early 1943. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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