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13 hours ago, welshbairn said:

According to this the Russians tanks got properly battered the other day.

 

I'm guessing there is an element of human nature in it but, if I've learnt anything from copious volumes of these videos, hiding in the trees really isn't a great solution.

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5 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Should have done some googling before posting that obviously. Are you sure on Stalingrad and Grozny? The Tiger tanks appear to have entered service in 1942.

 

4 hours ago, highlandcowden said:

Absolutely certain,yes

100% correct, the first real use of the Tiger I was Kursk, in 1943...the earliest use in mid/late 1942 at Leningrad, and they were too late to try to release Stalingrad a little later. The Panther debuted in early 1943.

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1 minute ago, Alert Mongoose said:

I'm guessing there is an element of human nature in it but, if I've learnt anything from copious volumes of these videos, hiding in the trees really isn't a great solution.

Supposedly a lot of these tanks weren't even damaged, the crews just thought fuckthis for a game of soldiers and ran for it. Elon Musk is supposedly cutting off the ability of the Ukrainians to use his internet system to communicate with their drones, so the tanks might get more difficult to spot.

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2 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Supposedly a lot of these tanks weren't even damaged, the crews just thought fuckthis for a game of soldiers and ran for it. Elon Musk is supposedly cutting off the ability of the Ukrainians to use his internet system to communicate with their drones, so the tanks might get more difficult to spot.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64579267
 

Confirmed blocking of Starlink drone uses.

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8 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

 

 

The posting twitter account is clearly a Russian bot account. Looks like an attempt to try to justify Russian missile attacks. The Harpoon/Storm Shadow is pretty much an earlier version of the Ukrainian Neptune.

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2 hours ago, TxRover said:

The posting twitter account is clearly a Russian bot account. Looks like an attempt to try to justify Russian missile attacks. The Harpoon/Storm Shadow is pretty much an earlier version of the Ukrainian Neptune.

Not really relevant that the Twitter account is or isn't a bot.  

The article originated in The Times.

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4 hours ago, beefybake said:

Not really relevant that the Twitter account is or isn't a bot.  

The article originated in The Times.

It’s just using a silly Times article to convince people that Russia is the harmed party. The bot accounts tend to have an arc of life…they start with useful and accurate data, then a slight spin gets put on it, then the spin gets amped up, until people who started listening to the posts when it was rational and accurate are buying the pure propaganda being shoveled. So, it is relevant, in that it shows the Russian disinformation campaign is still quite active.

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Same info from The Times was tweeted by this account linked to the Belarusian opposition movement that predates last year's invasion:

 

Given Challenger tank approval preceded moves elsewhere on Leopards and Abrams that may or may not be significant. 

 

 

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Yer Da is taking the divorce well.

https://news.stv.tv/world/fake-russians-snared-berlin-embassy-spy-from-paisley-in-sting-op-court-told

Smith collected memorabilia at his flat, including German uniforms from the Second World War and a Russian flag.

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6 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Isn't this just going to grind down into who runs out of people to fight 1st which will almost certainly see Russia outlasting Ukraine as it stands for now ?

Not necessarily. Russian combat techniques are devolving at a phenomenal rate, such that even having vast reserves of men are not going to be decisive against the more intelligent use of firepower that Ukraine can rely on.

Suspect this latest Russian offensive isn't going to do much, a lot will rely on how successful the next Ukraine one is, likely now to be in the Spring once they've assimilated more Western equipment, even then though - without decisive air power it's going to be hard to break the Russians in sufficient depth to drive  them out completely.

 

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16 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

That's the danger of taking online fuckwittery into the real world, everyone who was in contact with him online probably agreed with him so what could the harm be?

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