ICTChris Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Guardian article about Mariupol - the Ukrainian Army have managed to hit Russian positions in the city this week with new weapons. https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2023/feb/23/mariupol-the-ruin-of-a-city 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 An upright moral stance taken here from Gordon Brown, as he checks himself into a cell in The Hague for his key role in the 2003 destruction of Iraq: https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2023/feb/24/people-ukraine-vladimir-putin-trial-war-crimes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/24/vladimir-putin-invade-ukraine-2022-russia 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) Meanwhile, @virginton receives a call from Putin thanking him for all his hard work on the P&B Ukraine thread Edited February 24, 2023 by The Other Foot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 54 minutes ago, The Other Foot said: Meanwhile, @virginton receives a call from Putin thanking him for all his hard work on the P&B Ukraine thread And stays all away from any and all fenestration… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Interesting thread about Wagner and their prospects in Bakhmut. Basically, the Russian MoD have reduced their shells perhaps due to the backbiting between Prigozhin and Shiogu more likely that the Russians are having supply issues with shells and ammo generally. Wagner have also been prevented from recruiting prisoners so have severe manpower issues. Their tactics have gained some territory but they may have a hard time holding it against a counterattack and they don’t have established defensive lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: Interesting thread about Wagner and their prospects in Bakhmut. Basically, the Russian MoD have reduced their shells perhaps due to the backbiting between Prigozhin and Shiogu more likely that the Russians are having supply issues with shells and ammo generally. Wagner have also been prevented from recruiting prisoners so have severe manpower issues. Their tactics have gained some territory but they may have a hard time holding it against a counterattack and they don’t have established defensive lines. Maybe it's just that Prigozhin promised Bakhmut about 9 months ago with his boys shoving prisoners up to the front, and the results have been pretty poor. I think you forgot to post the thread link. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Doh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 American drone supplies never lived up to the hype but maybe that's about to change: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-gets-huge-boost-in-deadly-drone-capabilities-from-u-s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Apparently Russian SMO widows in Forbes.ru... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I suppose when the bag of turnips runs out, they have to find a new breadwinner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braesoyetts Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 20/02/2023 at 14:47, LongTimeLurker said: I have no strong opinion about that ammunition depot and its significance, but one thing that I think is obvious is that the Ukrainians have been dropping heavy hints for a while that they want to be invited into Moldova: Transnistria has been sitting there for decades waiting for a Russian leader to do what Vlad did. Getting rid of it makes Odessa and what remains of their Black Sea coastline significantly more secure for the Ukrainians. Probably not necessary to invade it to do that. Cutting off supply and contact with Russia itself should eventually do the trick, much like may well happen with Crimea. Can't really maintain a force of any kind, even just a few guys guarding an ammunition depot, without lines of communication and supply. That is likely already happening, and it'll be left to Moldova to do the tough work of reasserting control over their territory over the Dniester (no idea how that will be done, but it will be necessary - perhaps with Romanian support?) Best if UAF stays well out of it. Agree about the ammunition. Given the quality of ammo actually sent to Russian front line troops in Ukraine (rusted, dud, or made of potatoes), goodness knows what the stuff left in depots elsewhere is like. Might be good for selling on eBay as Soviet memorabilia though.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 hours ago, jagfox said: Apparently Russian SMO widows in Forbes.ru... The lapel insignia on some of these uniforms is very Wehrmacht 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Braesoyetts said: Probably not necessary to invade it to do that. Cutting off supply and contact with Russia itself should eventually do the trick, much like may well happen with Crimea. Can't really maintain a force of any kind, even just a few guys guarding an ammunition depot, without lines of communication and supply. That is likely already happening, and it'll be left to Moldova to do the tough work of reasserting control over their territory over the Dniester (no idea how that will be done, but it will be necessary - perhaps with Romanian support?) Best if UAF stays well out of it. Agree about the ammunition. Given the quality of ammo actually sent to Russian front line troops in Ukraine (rusted, dud, or made of potatoes), goodness knows what the stuff left in depots elsewhere is like. Might be good for selling on eBay as Soviet memorabilia though.... The problem with the ammo is heavily concentrated on the artillery shells, mainly because most Soviet eras systems use separate charges and shells. The shells are relatively stable, but the charges are much more vulnerable to becoming unstable due to storage conditions. The small arms ammunition is likely usable for another 50-100 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: I suppose when the bag of turnips runs out, they have to find a new breadwinner. I have meat and two veg they can get stuck into. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: I have meat and two veg they can get stuck into. I suspect you’re the one wanting to get sticking…and there is a minor risk: “An Arlington woman and purported mail-order bride from Russia who was accused of killing her husband’s 8-year-old son and his ex-wife pleaded guilty to two counts of capital murder Tuesday morning, according to prosecutors.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Ukraine finished exhumation of mass graves after Russians left Izyum. 192 men, 215 women, 22 military, 5 children. Bodies with tied arms, bullet holes in head, some without genitalia, with ropes on neck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Watching a YouTube video about Ukrainian partisans and it reminded me of the first few days of the full scale invasion last year when the Ukrainian state were handing out rifles, RPGs, grenades and molotov cocktails to literally anyone who turned up at their local post office (or whatever); after the war, how will Ukraine control the unregistered, freely distributed military firearms? Bearing in mind, that it wasn't only a few rusty AKs that were handed out, but all sorts of small arms and heavy weapons, plus bounty captured from Russian (or pro) forces. I mean, it wasn't exactly a stable, wealthy, fair country before 2014/2022. A massive proliferation of arms and no tracking of same on top of war torn civil divisions will probably all work out fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 11 hours ago, Sweet Pete said: Watching a YouTube video about Ukrainian partisans and it reminded me of the first few days of the full scale invasion last year when the Ukrainian state were handing out rifles, RPGs, grenades and molotov cocktails to literally anyone who turned up at their local post office (or whatever); after the war, how will Ukraine control the unregistered, freely distributed military firearms? Bearing in mind, that it wasn't only a few rusty AKs that were handed out, but all sorts of small arms and heavy weapons, plus bounty captured from Russian (or pro) forces. I mean, it wasn't exactly a stable, wealthy, fair country before 2014/2022. A massive proliferation of arms and no tracking of same on top of war torn civil divisions will probably all work out fine. You're right,it would have been much better for future law&order to just let the Russians march in That's like worrying about the water damage when the fire brigade are fighting a fire at your house -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 52 minutes ago, highlandcowden said: You're right,it would have been much better for future law&order to just let the Russians march in That's like worrying about the water damage when the fire brigade are fighting a fire at your house Weird take. I'm not suggesting that Ukraine shouldn't have defended itself against invasion, nor am I suggesting it shouldn't still continue to do so. I'm saying, when the war with Russia is over, they'll have some other problems to deal with. I know it's not trendy to say something other than "slava Ukrainia", but just because some truths aren't nice to hear, doesn't make them untrue. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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