Wee-Bey Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Are Wagner the good guys now ? Putin's reputation as a strongman is in tatters now regardless of what happens here I think. I wonder how long the rest of the state apparatus will stick with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Iran not backing Putin. Saying its an internal matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, Highlandmagar said: Iran not backing Putin. Saying its an internal matter. Iranian government big fans of Star Trek and just following the Prime Directive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 You can't let a PMC coup get in the way of a girl's graduation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, Salvo Montalbano said: Iranian government big fans of Star Trek and just following the Prime Directive. Time for a Kobayashi Maru move by Mad Vlad soon by the looks of things or he is not going to live long and prosper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 The battle for Moscow is looking like Wagner will stroll in without a shot fired. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, LongTimeLurker said: Time for a Kobayashi Maru move by Mad Vlad soon by the looks of things or he is not going to live long and prosper. Beam me up Scotty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Doctor Manhattan Posted June 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2023 6 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: Is there a Sevco analogy in all this? 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Prigozhin acting like Napoleon returning to Paris with the Army sent to stop him, joining him. Kadyrov will flip as soon as Wagner offer him a better deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Herc said: Are Wagner the good guys now ? Putin's reputation as a strongman is in tatters now regardless of what happens here I think. I wonder how long the rest of the state apparatus will stick with him. He’s not been the good guy since he rocked up at Dens with a Dundee tap oan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 At what point does Russia 1 Channel start playing Swan Lake? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Ray Patterson said: Prigozhin acting like Napoleon returning to Paris with the Army sent to stop him, joining him. Kadyrov will flip as soon as Wagner offer him a better deal. Wagner makes their own Tiktok videos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeTon Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ray Patterson said: Prigozhin acting like Napoleon returning to Paris with the Army sent to stop him, joining him. Kadyrov will flip as soon as Wagner offer him a better deal. Putin will be hoping the Napoleon similaries go one step further. (Or not, I suppose. He'd have to burn down Moscow.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Moscow announce Monday as a 'non' working day to minimise danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doctor Manhattan said: Thank you l, when I read that post a Photoshop of big hoose man and the Kremlin sprung to mind. Lack the required skills to do it myself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Putin's last play - when does Putin start telling the Russian public that they need to stop Wagner as they'll likely rape and pillage from them as they are full of rapists, murderers and ne'er do wells. Even though he supported emptying the jail's and paying for.them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 So what is the reason that taking Moscow means taking Russia? I’ve been saying it to my wife too, and she thinks I’m very wise. But I’m not. I’m not wise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 minute ago, The Other Foot said: So what is the reason that taking Moscow means taking Russia? I’ve been saying it to my wife too, and she thinks I’m very wise. But I’m not. I’m not wise. Russia is very centralised as a country and most of the main transport links in the European part radiate from there so whoever controls Moscow has a big advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Herc said: You can't let a PMC coup get in the way of a girl's graduation. I hope this sparks off a genre of 'oblivious citizens doing their thing with a coup in the background' videos, like the Burma workout girl 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeTon Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, The Other Foot said: So what is the reason that taking Moscow means taking Russia? I’ve been saying it to my wife too, and she thinks I’m very wise. But I’m not. I’m not wise. Bit like how taking Stirling Castle used to be taking Scotland. Every Major Road (Motorways, obviously) and Railway in Russia centres on Moscow (see the images below), and the Power Structure centres around who sits in the Kremlin. Economically, having Moscow cut off from Russia is a huge kick in the balls for the state, mainly because of its "hub" position. Politically, it's a bullet in the foot, because of the significance. Historically, Moscow hasn't fallen in recent history. The Swedes, French and Germans (Nazis, not the Empire) have all failed. Their empires were all destroyed as a result. The only time it has fallen was during the Russian Civil War - in other words, Russia took it. This would be different, as Wagner is a PMC and, despite being based in Russia, they aren't an asset of the state. It's an outside yet internal force. F**k knows how that works going forward, but moving on... And also, Putin's reputation won't be in the mud, it'll be 2012-RFC levels of non-existent. Road and Rail Maps, as mentioned above: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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