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2 hours ago, bennett said:

Seems like Russian forces are running out of transport trucks, always thought that they'd huge stockpiles of vehicles. 

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If they were good enough for the lads at Pippin Fort...

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33 minutes ago, Jedi said:

Given that Russia has a recently agreed $117.5 billion dollar deal in place to supply China with oil, and the means to do it,.

American imports from Russia only account for 1% of its crude oil (it gets over 60% from Canada), the UK as known, has less than 4% of its supply from Russia, so...all in all the sanctions on Russian oil from the US/UK are cosmetic, and don't have much of an impact on the Russian economy.

Meanwhile the EU knows that it will take them around 10 years to move away from Russian dependency.

Apparently it's the particular type of oil that Russia has that makes it hard for America to source elsewhere, the heavy stuff. Venezuela has loads of it, thus the high level visit a couple of days ago to Caracas by US Government people to mend fences. 

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Other countries close by with Migs are Bulgaria and Slovakia I wonder if they will be next to "donate"
Being reported that Poland have "sourced" some f16s as replacements 
AlJazeera reporting that the Polish offer of jets was made entirely unilaterally by Poles and that this arrangement has been described by Pentagon as "completely untenable".
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1 minute ago, Florentine_Pogen said:
3 hours ago, doulikefish said:
Other countries close by with Migs are Bulgaria and Slovakia I wonder if they will be next to "donate"
Being reported that Poland have "sourced" some f16s as replacements 

AlJazeera reporting that the Polish offer of jets was made entirely unilaterally by Poles and that this arrangement has been described by Pentagon as "completely untenable".

Newsnight carried that story.

My reading of it was that it is a diplomatic distancing of USA USA from overt organisational activities 

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4 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said:
3 hours ago, doulikefish said:
Other countries close by with Migs are Bulgaria and Slovakia I wonder if they will be next to "donate"
Being reported that Poland have "sourced" some f16s as replacements 

AlJazeera reporting that the Polish offer of jets was made entirely unilaterally by Poles and that this arrangement has been described by Pentagon as "completely untenable".

It seemed a bit weird that Poland put out a statement, you'd think this stuff would be arranged on the quiet. Sounds like a hustle.

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The authorities of the Republic of Poland, after consultations between the President and the Government, are ready to deploy – immediately and free of charge – all their MIG-29 jets to the Ramstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America. 

At the same time, Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities. Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes. 

https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/statement-of-the-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-connection-with-the-statement-by-the-us-secretary-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine

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Newsnight carried that story.
My reading of it was that it is a diplomatic distancing of USA USA from overt organisational activities 
Fair enough but if the deal goes through 'behind the scenes', there is, presumably, only one source of F16 procurement. Don't see the point of 'Murca doing the ' wisnae us' nonsense.....
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56 minutes ago, Jedi said:

Given that Russia has a recently agreed $117.5 billion dollar deal in place to supply China with oil, and the means to do it,.

American imports from Russia only account for 1% of its crude oil (it gets over 60% from Canada), the UK as known, has less than 4% of its supply from Russia, so...all in all the sanctions on Russian oil from the US/UK are cosmetic, and don't have much of an impact on the Russian economy.

Meanwhile the EU knows that it will take them around 10 years to move away from Russian dependency.

Except it’s all hard currency sales…unlike the Chinese sales.

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2 hours ago, Detournement said:

Victoria Nuland confirming the biolabs. 

The weird thing is that RT didn't show it unedited with the question from Rubio, much more damning. He asked her a feed question, "Do Ukraine have any chemical or biological weapons?", expecting a straight no so he could do his follow on about Russia potentially staging a fake attack. She was flustered after his attack about the Venezuela visit and came out with the stuff about Ukrainian bio research labs. Rubio quickly got it back on track with the Russian staged thing, but gave a quick wtf look at her. A comment on shite propaganda, I think there's zero chance of the Americans having any, far less 24 biological warfare labs in Ukraine. What would be the point when they have far more secure facilities at home?

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