welshbairn Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Chechen fighters maybe not so scary after all. Quote Many Chechens felt they were sent as cannon fodder to a badly planned war in the early days, when their heavy losses included a senior commander. Now they seem more focused on a media war, aimed at driving recruits and bolstering their leader. At home, Kadyrov has been pushing hard for “volunteers”, who are offered a sign-on bonus of about $2,300 (£1,750) and pay of $1,000 a month, with extra for successful operations, one recruiter said in text messages to a prospective young fighter. They have approached groups including martial arts coaches asking young men to sign up, but Chechens are apparently mostly unmoved, aware how lethal the war has become. “The footage and metadata show most [Chechen] forces are at least 20km [12 miles] away from the frontline, the only things they do is record videos to motivate people inside Chechnya and promote the warrior image of Kadyrov and his forces,” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/22/chechnyas-losses-in-ukraine-may-be-leader-ramzan-kadyrovs-undoing Edited March 22, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BFTD Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 @Sonam - get the thread title changed to "Ian Botham's Deformed Chode" please. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: If they are not surrounded by Bothams Johnson, im not interested. Luckily enough from the google map, it looks like they might be. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Albus Bulbasaur said: Think I've found the name for my new punk rock band. FWIW, I've previously gone to see a band called Depeche Choad. Edited March 22, 2022 by Hedgecutter 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I think these reports about Russian troops getting surrounded in Kyiv are probably wishful thinking from the people relating them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Botham's penis was developed in a secret CIA bio lab in Eatern Ukraine.Botham's boaby can't melt steel beams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: 3 hours ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said: Botham's penis was developed in a secret CIA bio lab in Eatern Ukraine. Botham's boaby can't melt steel beams. Steel beams can melt Bothams Boaby. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: Steel beams can melt Bothams Boaby. Pics or....hang on, naw, you're alright. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Saintsible Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Biden talking about Putin being backed into a corner and could use chemical or biological weapons This is the prelude to a possible US false flag operation as they did in Syria 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Chechen fighters maybe not so scary after all. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/22/chechnyas-losses-in-ukraine-may-be-leader-ramzan-kadyrovs-undoing That is an interesting article. There were reports that a column of Chechen National Guard troops were hit by a TB2 strike which may account for casualties and they were involved in the fighting at Hostomel, although the initial fighters who took heavy losses were VDV, likely non-Chechens. I've seen it said that most of the Chechens aren't on the front lines, interesting to see that article say that data backs that up. I think the authors are overplaying the level of threat to Kadyrov's rule as well. The question is who is going to challange him - the war in Chechnya is over. The initial rebels, independence fighters, were defeated by Russia and then worn down in the guerrila phase. The Chechen rebels who remained pivoted towards radical Islam, many left the Caucausas to join the Islamic State and were killed in Iraq and Syria. I don't think there is any active rebel activity in Chechnya itself at all. A lot of people defected to Kadyrov just out of practicality, they couldn't keep fighting so they took the least worst option. A lot of Chechens were also turned off by the move from nationalism to radical Islam. So the rebel movement inside Chechnya is weak or likely non-existent, the threat would have to be internal but there is nobody within Kadyrov's fighters who could step up and take over from him, everyone's loyalty is to him. Any commanders with sufficient followings have been eliminated. The only thing I'd say is that maybe if they took even heavier losses, if their senior commanders were killed they might be at risk of mutiny but I doubt even that. Paradoxically, it's more likely that Kadyrov himself mutinies against Moscow, for example, if Putin was no longer leader and Kadyrov didn't like the successor. In addition to the Kadyrov battalions and the anti-Russian fighters in Chechnya, there were reports a week or so ago that fighters from a Chechen rebel group based in Syria had travelled to Ukraine to fight the Russians - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajnad_al-Kavkaz is the group. Again, no discussion of it since. There are certainly nationalist/Ichkerian fighters for Ukraine, the Dudayev Brigade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Saintsible Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Add anti-vaxxers to Putin’s bitches. I think more likely that unvaxxed folk are more sceptical of what their governments and the MSM tells them whereas folk like you believe everything they’re told and bend over and take it right up the arse -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Saintsible Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 5 hours ago, throbber said: The bbc news app headline is “Putins back against the wall” which sounds promising then when you open the article the first bullet point is that this may tempt him to get the chemical weapons out. That’s the US getting the world ready for their own false flag operations -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Captain Saintsible said: I think more likely that unvaxxed folk are more sceptical of what their governments and the MSM tells them whereas folk like you believe everything they’re told and bend over and take it right up the arse Aye that’s what it will be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Saintsible Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, Melanius Mullarkay said: Aye that’s what it will be. Says someone who believes everything he reads on the BBC -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, carpetmonster said: Pics or....hang on, naw, you're alright. Right here you go, you asked for it. Spoiler Don’t say I didn’t warn you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, Captain Saintsible said: Says someone who believes everything he reads on the BBC What the f**k are you havering on about you complete and utter trumpet. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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