Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Looks like the Full Stop Ferry has yet to arrive. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Back again got called out there The Cal mac shambles it is You would have thought it would be full steam ahead to get them finished It seems the management are trying get to volunteers to leave the yard and go and work in another yard in the south of England on a short term contract The engines have been sitting for 5 years and have never been started They are probably going to be taken out of the ships and replaced with new engines A very time consuming exercise cutting the ships open to get them out and a very expensive Not sure what a engine retails at They have a new head guy lined up but does not start until the autumn He is 68 year old and has had a lifetimes work in shipbuilding Not sure what these engines use for fuel Some kind of gas no doubt as what ever it is Ardrossan did not have the storage facilities for it so 100s of Millions of £s had to be spent in building storage for the fuel which arrives in the south of England and has to be brought up by lorry So much for going green Have got called out again to work TBC!...:;?! Help yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broon-loon Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Jerry Hall was aboard a Ferry many years ago. Let's stick together, things might work out OK? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thought there was a thread on here about it but can not find it Have threatened to post on here for the past couple of weeks about it after getting told from a very good source what was happening in that yard Was having trouble believing what i was getting told One of the first things was that the Scottish Gov hired a clueless c*** on £800 000 a year Got it confirmed on the news today that it was true TBC I don't mind him tbh. His interviews are generally ok but him asking the players about the Old Firm all the time does get a bit tiresome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, broon-loon said: Jerry Hall was aboard a Ferry many years ago. Let's stick together, things might work out OK? She goes down on an old barnacled scow these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I quite like the "Here's the shit we're in, this is what it's going to cost in time and money to solve it." attitude of the new boss at Ferguson. https://www.fergusonmarine.com/media/1323/fmpg-update-letter-to-nzet-230322-final.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys McCabe Hype Train Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I quite like the "Here's the shit we're in, this is what it's going to cost in time and money to solve it." attitude of the new boss at Ferguson. https://www.fergusonmarine.com/media/1323/fmpg-update-letter-to-nzet-230322-final.pdf Jim McColl quoted as saying it would be cheaper to make the second hull watertight and attempt to sell it, then start it all again. Wouldn’t surprise me if these ships never see service tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Dylan Easton Fanclub said: Jim McColl quoted as saying it would be cheaper to make the second hull watertight and attempt to sell it, then start it all again. Wouldn’t surprise me if these ships never see service tbh. That turnaround guy that got £2m must have been well worth his money if that happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, carpetmonster said: She got quite a roasting from Ross and Sarwar today. If you believe that, then you’ll believe anything. FTFY Like being savaged by 2 dead sheep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 In summary Jim McColl ripped off the country and is now saying he only done it because the scottish govt didn't put in a clause that he stopped him from ripping us off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Dylan Easton Fanclub said: Jim McColl quoted as saying it would be cheaper to make the second hull watertight and attempt to sell it, then start it all again. Wouldn’t surprise me if these ships never see service tbh. I wouldn't be surprised if Jim McColl wangled a profit somehow from buying Ferguson for £600,000 and having its debts written off when the Government took it over. No doubt helps with the upkeep of his Monaco home and tax shelter. I'd probably have more time for his pronouncements if he accepted some responsibility for what went wrong. The thing that confuses me is why have the dual fuel of either liquified natural gas or diesel? Seems unnecessarily complicated, if you want it more eco friendly, just go for gas? Edited March 31, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 If we care more the ferries will get built. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: In summary Jim McColl ripped off the country and is now saying he only done it because the scottish govt didn't put in a clause that he stopped him from ripping us off. TBF he did grow great tatties and onions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 The 'good source' nonsense has now spread to the government and/or a shipyard. What other odd places do folk have a 'good source' in? The Post Office? Do folk get tipped off about a new style of stamp coming out? The Refuse Department of the local council? Are there sources there feeding inside information about bins being secretly replaced with ones that have 5% less capacity in some stealth savings effort? How about the local zoo? Do people get told secrets that the giraffes are actually two horses in a costume? Anyway, shocked to hear of a government bungling some contract. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: In summary Jim McColl ripped off the country and is now saying he only done it because the scottish govt didn't put in a clause that he stopped him from ripping us off. That’s some take. How about calling out the governments part in this or do you think they’ve acted above board here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Ferry watching Ferry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I’m a ferry and my name is Nuff. Ferry Nuff. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, Left Back said: That’s some take. How about calling out the governments part in this or do you think they’ve acted above board here? The govt should have put a clause in the contract that Jim McColl cannot rip them off. That was a poor decision when dealing with a crook. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: The govt should have put a clause in the contract that Jim McColl cannot rip them off. That was a poor decision when dealing with a crook. The government should have followed their own procurement procedures. They also should have listened to their own agency that said awarding this contract was wrong. That’s before they blew more cash on the turnaround manager. These procedures are in place for a reason. It’s not the governments money. It belongs to the taxpayer. The government are 100% accountable for ensuring it’s spent wisely. I have no idea who McColl is or if he is a con man. At the end of the day that’s irrelevant. The government have royally fucked this up at enormous cost to the taxpayer and there’s no getting round that. I don’t even need to touch on the alleged motives. Regardless of any alleged motive they have cost the taxpayer a lot of money. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: I have no idea who McColl is wut. you should probably look into him if you want to discuss this topic he is a confirmed liar Quote Mr McColl denied signing the original contract. However, the BBC has seen an unredacted copy of this document and it seems that he did. His signature appears alongside that of the then chief executive of ferry company CMAL, Tom Docherty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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