Guest Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Scottish Referee Craig Napier comes out. Hopefully this is the flood gates starting to open. Still a shite ref but 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Autistisches Nilpferd said: Scottish Referee Craig Napier comes out. Hopefully this is the flood gates starting to open. Still a shite ref but Another referee - Lloyd Wilson - has come out today as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Another referee - Lloyd Wilson - has come out today as well. A less shite referee imho 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 After all the years in football at the age of 56 he comes out. Says it all about the rampant homophobia in football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 After all the years in football at the age of 56 he comes out. Says it all about the rampant homophobia in football. Who is 56? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Who is 56? Got the wrong g Craig Napier. As have Sky. He is 32? Even so, in this supposed enlightened age football is anti gay. Edited June 2, 2022 by Highlandmagyar Tier 3 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumjob Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Fair play to these lads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Good stuff. Hopefully met with nothing but support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 You fear for the refs coming out with the abuse they get at the best of times. Fair play to them though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) I think that, in Scotland, we've been moving in the right direction for a while. It wasn’t uncommon to hear players be called 'poofs' a while back for example, but thankfully this has died down a lot and is now rarer. Likewise the song about a team's fans being gay is heard much less often. There's still work to do though and some way to go. A few seasons back some of our fans were singing about Scott McDonald 'taking it up the arse'. When called out there were hysterical defences of it and ridiculous claims it wasn't homophobic, and some came across as feeling insulted for being called out for singing a homophobic song. There's also a line in the 'Dunfermline Loyal' song I wish our fans would drop. Continuing education on the subject is key, and things like Pride events help in that regard. Hopefully we'll get to the stage where discrimination and/or insults at grounds by fans based on someone's sexuality is treated with the same shock and disgust as racism is. Discrimination like that is not acceptable. Edited June 3, 2022 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Hopefully we'll get to the stage where discrimination and/or insults at grounds by fans based on someone's sexuality is treated with the same shock and disgust as racism is. Discrimination like that is not acceptable. I'd like to think that now we've got two openly gay refs, we're at a stage where any abuse about their sexuality will be called out in the same way. Time will tell... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 I'd like to think that now we've got two openly gay refs, we're at a stage where any abuse about their sexuality will be called out in the same way. Time will tell...Nah, if c***s do it then they'll just think anyone who calls them out are "woke" or "can't take a joke". It'll be considered patter to them as they try and come up with a funny way to sing or shout about it and get forced laughs from the people they've surrounded themselves with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 There's still work to do though and some way to go. A few seasons back some of our fans were singing about Scott McDonald 'taking it up the arse'. When called out there were hysterical defences of it and ridiculous claims it wasn't homophobic, and some came across as feeling insulted for being called out for singing a homophobic song. Same indignation when fans were called out for singing about Val McDermid having a short back and sides. Connotations of that are clear to anyone with half a brain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Autistisches Nilpferd said: Same indignation when fans were called out for singing about Val McDermid having a short back and sides. Connotations of that are clear to anyone with half a brain Aye, just shows that some fannies are determined to use homophobia against people they don't like, for whatever reason. Shows that there's still some way to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Nah, if c***s do it then they'll just think anyone who calls them out are "woke" or "can't take a joke". It'll be considered patter to them as they try and come up with a funny way to sing or shout about it and get forced laughs from the people they've surrounded themselves with. You're never going to be able to stop individuals from being p***ks, but I don't think that sort of stuff would be considered acceptable as a whole and would be treated in the same way as racist abuse. Folk would definitely be called out for it and be facing bans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 You're never going to be able to stop individuals from being p***ks, but I don't think that sort of stuff would be considered acceptable as a whole and would be treated in the same way as racist abuse. Folk would definitely be called out for it and be facing bans.Maybe but this season we've seen Rangers fans feeling comfortable singing racist abuse about a Celtic player, Scotland fans constantly singing about "m****s" and just today members of an orange lodge (one of whom works for a Northern Irish club) singing about a murdered woman. An individual shout probably would be called out, but if people feel comfortable that they won't be called out in a specific environment - as those examples clearly were - then they're gonna be c***s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 21 hours ago, CoF said: I'd like to think that now we've got two openly gay refs, we're at a stage where any abuse about their sexuality will be called out in the same way. Time will tell... Never mind that, is he a Catholic poof or a Protestant poof? Will be the most pressing question in some quarters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62935726 Much of my admiration for these folk is due to them, if I'm understanding it correctly, being prepared to put their own head above the parapet for the betterment of society overall. First active male senior footballer in Scotland to "come out" as gay since Justin Fashanu. Edited September 16, 2022 by FreedomFarter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Thought I'd give the thread a wee bump with this video. Just great to hear two gay sportsmen talking so openly. Especially as homophobia has crept back into the football news recently 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 It's nice but I prefer Jim Beam tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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