19QOS19 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: A bit harsh. He definitely benefited from the tail wind you describe, and you're right about his subsequent record. However, do we know that we had a bigger budget than Ayr? They actually started the season as favourites. He did inherit good youngsters coming of age, but he also brought in players who did well for us, like Mitchell and Durnan. Holding onto Clark was also a masterstroke most of us wouldn't have attempted. Circumstances did favour him, but he also got a Hell of a lot right that year. He did. But I'd say the circumstances were particularly favourable to him and overall he's a poor manager. I just find it bizarre that he's used as some kind of yard stick when comparing our current manager. There are a couple on here who have been slow to praise MB but seemed incapable of criticising AJ - even when we were rank rotten under him. His first spell certainly did him a lot of favours for some of our support it would appear. As I say, I'm in no way surprised he hasn't been snapped up by another club yet. I'm confident MB will go on to have a better career than him as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller69 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Be interesting to see who plays in goals today, Stone or Cowie. If it's Stone, Cowie will be absolutely fuming considering that Queens dashed his hopes of a move to Hearts B team in the summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Baller69 said: Be interesting to see who plays in goals today, Stone or Cowie. If it's Stone, Cowie will be absolutely fuming considering that Queens dashed his hopes of a move to Hearts B team in the summer. Cowie will be going out on loan once Botterill is back so I'd expect if Stone is fit he'll start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, Baller69 said: Be interesting to see who plays in goals today, Stone or Cowie. If it's Stone, Cowie will be absolutely fuming considering that Queens dashed his hopes of a move to Hearts B team in the summer. I'm sure Marv will do what's considered best for the team, he seems the kind not be bothered by hurting players feelings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller69 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Fae_the_'briggs said: I'm sure Marv will do what's considered best for the team, he seems the kind not be bothered by hurting players feelings. Of course he will. My point was, why stop a player moving to a club if you have no intention of playing him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Baller69 said: Of course he will. My point was, why stop a player moving to a club if you have no intention of playing him He did move, he went to Gretna. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller69 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: He did move, he went to Gretna. Bit of a difference signing a full time contract with Hearts and going on loan to Gretna 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Baller69 said: Bit of a difference signing a full time contract with Hearts and going on loan to Gretna If Queens aren't willing to sell him then they obviously have plans for him. Seem to be making an issue out of nothing here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller69 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, 19QOS19 said: If Queens aren't willing to sell him then they obviously have plans for him. Seem to be making an issue out of nothing here. I'm merely giving you facts. Queens made a mistake with Cowies contract by failing to offer him a new contract within 14 days of his old one running out. He agreed terms with Hearts only for QOS to threaten Hearts with a law suit (even though they had no case) Hearts didn't want the bad publicity so pulled the plug. So I'm sure your limited brain can understand the issue now????? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Baller69 said: I'm merely giving you facts. Queens made a mistake with Cowies contract by failing to offer him a new contract within 14 days of his old one running out. He agreed terms with Hearts only for QOS to threaten Hearts with a law suit (even though they had no case) Hearts didn't want the bad publicity so pulled the plug. So I'm sure your limited brain can understand the issue now????? You may be itk, and like people to know it, but no need to sink to personal insults. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller69 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fae_the_'briggs said: You may be itk, and like people to know it, but no need to sink to personal insults. Apologies Karen -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Baller69 said: I'm merely giving you facts. Queens made a mistake with Cowies contract by failing to offer him a new contract within 14 days of his old one running out. He agreed terms with Hearts only for QOS to threaten Hearts with a law suit (even though they had no case) Hearts didn't want the bad publicity so pulled the plug. So I'm sure your limited brain can understand the issue now????? Queens had no case but Hearts dropped it because they didn't want the bad publicity of being in the right? Aye, ok. Edited September 2, 2023 by 19QOS19 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller69 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, 19QOS19 said: They had no case but Hearts dropped it because they didn't want the bad publicity of being in the right? Aye, ok. Nothing worse than someone in the know when you're not eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Baller69 said: Nothing worse than someone in the know when you're not eh? I really couldn't care. But I'm confident that you've got your wires crossed along the way. If Hearts had done everything correctly and wanted Cowie, there's no way they wouldn't have went through with the deal if "Queens didn't have a case". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller69 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: I really couldn't care. But I'm confident that you've got your wires crossed along the way. If Hearts had done everything correctly and wanted Cowie, there's no way they wouldn't have went through with the deal if "Queens didn't have a case". I'm 100 % confident my wires aren't crossed. But seen as you don't care, you won't be replying. Enjoy the game Mon the Queens 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Baller69 said: Be interesting to see who plays in goals today, Stone or Cowie. If it's Stone, Cowie will be absolutely fuming considering that Queens dashed his hopes of a move to Hearts B team in the summer. Stone starts. No real surprise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller69 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army said: Stone starts. No real surprise. Exactly. We all knew that would happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qos_75 Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Nithsdale Wanderer said: Quite sad to see you cannot give genuine credit where it is due. Even with the biggest budget and talent in the country you still have to bring it all together to produce results. AJ’s first spell with the club was magnificent and shouldn’t be forgotten. That was one of the best Queens sides to watch in my life time. Breaking records left right and centre in the promotion year. it is a shame that he went to Kilmarnock. Personally, I would have liked him to stay. We did reach two back-to-back promotion play-offs in the following two seasons after he left. Would he have done any better? We will never know. The football might have been a little more pleasing on the eye though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nithsdale Wanderer Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Don't like commenting on games I am not at but that appears to be a repeat of the Alloa game. Wrong team selection by Bartley and wrong game plan if you lose 2 early goals like that. Good to see we revived 2nd half but we are giving ourselves too much to do. Will be nowhere near promotion if we continue to be 2 goals behind at HT and end up losing home games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: Queens had no case but Hearts dropped it because they didn't want the bad publicity of being in the right? Aye, ok. Probably not bad publicity, more just that they didn't need the hassle. Other than that, my understanding is that Baller isn't too far off with his account. Queens did block the Hearts move for Cowie, and we have to wonder why, when he's clearly not considered yet up to starting for our first team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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