Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 A successful small side as queens are, in a lot of people's eyes out with dumfries will always cause it's own problems am afraid. Players ego's get too big for there boots and the team morale that has been so good over recent seasons will start to disappear. The board must act and bring an experienced Asi manager to work alongside Fowler, someone he can lean on at this difficult time he always said he didn't need one as things were running along smoothly well now it's starting to go off the rails. "Difficult time", "Off the rails". Do you not think the extent of any 'crisis', on the back of a couple of games, is being overplayed a bit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_vortex Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'm hearing the player involved in the after match bust up has been released by Queens 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'm hearing the player involved in the after match bust up has been released by Queens Correct. Today will be Mark Kerr's last day with the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Nothing wrong with big Jim Thomson though, he's a leader through and through. There's no room for sentiment at this level. Fowler needs an experienced assistant to control the dressing room, and Jim Thomson isn't that person. From the stories I've heard, his man management is bad enough with the 20's, let alone the first team. Fowler is doing a good job as an inexperienced manager, but he needs experienced help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS LEFT PEG Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 A successful small side as queens are, in a lot of people's eyes out with dumfries will always cause it's own problems am afraid. Players ego's get too big for there boots and the team morale that has been so good over recent seasons will start to disappear. The board must act and bring an experienced Asi manager to work alongside Fowler, someone he can lean on at this difficult time he always said he didn't need one as things were running along smoothly well now it's starting to go off the rails. What is this ' off the rails ' thing you are talking about after a loss and a draw. By that thinking , are half the teams in Britain 'off the rails '? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Correct. Today will be Mark Kerr's last day with the club. Without having a clue about the circumstances, I don't much like the sound of that, if it's confirmed as true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_vortex Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Correct. Today will be Mark Kerr's last day with the club. That was the name we heard last night 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Without having a clue about the circumstances, I don't much like the sound of that, if it's confirmed as true. I'd imagine it will be announced at some point today. He will be leaving the club by mutual consent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Well that would be a significant loss in my view. He's done pretty well over the piece for us and we've benefited from his return from injury. Kind of ironic too, midst all the fretting about having to replace the young bucks after they get lured away. As I said, I've no knowledge of the circumstances - perhaps this has to happen, but it looks regrettable from this distance. Edited December 30, 2014 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think this one has been brewing for a while. It's unfortunate because he's been a good player for us, but if he isn't behind the management team then he isn't much use to us. He does have my sympathy to an extent with his frustration at the management situation, but I'm sure many of us in our own jobs have questioned the methods of our superiors before. You just have to be professional about it. Or move on. Burns and McKenna returning should soften this blow. An assistant manager has to be a priority now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think this one has been brewing for a while. It's unfortunate because he's been a good player for us, but if he isn't behind the management team then he isn't much use to us. He does have my sympathy to an extent with his frustration at the management situation, but I'm sure many of us in our own jobs have questioned the methods of our superiors before. You just have to be professional about it. Or move on. Burns and McKenna returning should soften this blow. An assistant manager has to be a priority now. Why? If all these rumours are true and Kerr does indeed leave the club now then doesnt that mean Fowler has dealt with the issue? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishyeltz Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Why? If all these rumours are true and Kerr does indeed leave the club now then doesnt that mean Fowler has dealt with the issue? Well I thought big Jim was the man for the job, but going by certain posters on here, he's not up to it. I suppose we will need to bring in an "auld heed" to calm down the situations when they occur. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Why? If all these rumours are true and Kerr does indeed leave the club now then doesnt that mean Fowler has dealt with the issue? That assumes that Kerr is the problem and all is rosy with everyone else. This may or may not be the case I have no idea. I'd prefer we got to the root cause though before it escalates. If it was a case of Kerr getting too big for his boots then job done. If this lack of respect for the management team is more widespread then we have a problem. The pitfalls of a young manager I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-coo-shed Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well I thought big Jim was the man for the job, but going by certain posters on here, he's not up to it. I suppose we will need to bring in an "auld heed" to calm down the situations when they occur. As much as I like Big Jim, the moment he berated Durnan in the game we beat Hibs at home for trying to pass the ball rather punt it was the moment I knew he shouldn't be assistant. Durnan looked perplexed! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broony88 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Kerr has been a good player for us but when he is cold he is very cold and he was as cold as the fans in the stand on Saturday. If fowler had singled him out and given him a talking to it was more than deserved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS LEFT PEG Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Club legend that Jim is , I am ever so glad that Mark Durnan does not adopt his playing style or tactics . Edited December 30, 2014 by JRS LEFT PEG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think this one has been brewing for a while. It's unfortunate because he's been a good player for us, but if he isn't behind the management team then he isn't much use to us. He does have my sympathy to an extent with his frustration at the management situation, but I'm sure many of us in our own jobs have questioned the methods of our superiors before. You just have to be professional about it. Or move on. Burns and McKenna returning should soften this blow. An assistant manager has to be a priority now. Are you not making some leaps here in saying "he does have my sympathy to an extent with his frustration at the management situation"? Is there any indication that this is the nature of the difficulty and that employing someone new as assistant is a solution? As I've said, I know nothing of this beyond what I've read on here and this action might have been entirely necessary. On the playing front though, it's a pity. Any return for Burns and McKenna might soften the blow, in terms of bolstering an otherwise depleted midfield. Neither offer what Kerr did when on his game though and it's therefore bad news. I hope Falkirk or Raith don't go and pick him up now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjc-1988 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Very disappointing news - Kerr has been a first class acquisition and has brought the best out of Ian McShane. All I can judge is the performances on the park and for me he has been an automatic pick in central midfield. Over the past couple of seasons we have prided ourselves on having a united dressing room with everybody pulling together for the common cause. I would have thought that healthy disagreements are commonplace in a post match scenario but for a player to be sent packing (if that is true) then that goes well beyond what is acceptable. Whatever way you cut it - we are the losers as we can ill afford to lose players of Kerr's quality especially when we face the threat of losing some of the younger fraternity. Not quite sure why an assistant has not been appointed - I think we could have done worse than consider Kerr for the role in a player coach capacity but if he is not seeing things in the same way as the Manager then this was presumably a non-starter. While the last two results have been disappointing I cant see that Fowler is doing much wrong with the way he is setting up the team and ironically enough Kerr wasn't at his best at Alloa. If all true a very disappointing development and one we don't want to see repeated!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well, he has gone clicky 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 He has my sympathy because if I was a professional footballer who had played at a far higher level I probably wouldn't appreciate Jim Thompson shouting and bawling at me either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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