Monkey Tennis Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) I suppose a positive spin would say that it's all a bit exciting this summer. We've been really stable by modern standards over the last couple of close seasons. That has of course been a huge plus for us and I'm not going to pretend that I'm pleased we've lost such talent. However, I suppose there's plenty that's unknown this time round. Obviously that means there's plenty room for concern, but also for anticipation. It'll be good to see how we line up when we get to the games and hopefully good to see how we get on too. Edited June 26, 2015 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishyeltz Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 The monkey playing tennis poster is quite correct. If we are already overachieving, then what is the point of turning up at games? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 The monkey playing tennis poster is quite correct. If we are already overachieving, then what is the point of turning up at games? Not entirely sure that that's what I said. I do think however that we're currently punching at about our weight - maybe just above. We're certainly not underachieving, but we're not doing outrageously well either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishyeltz Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 People like you make me want to go to games. Some of the dross on this site need a good bloody p**** *** * *** **** 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 People like you make me want to go to games. Some of the dross on this site need a good bloody p**** *** * *** **** This week the guest publication in the missing words round is Pie & Bovril. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QosLoyal Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 People like you make me want to go to games. Some of the dross on this site need a good bloody p**** *** * *** **** True colours shown! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Well fair enough with the first point - Chisholm is surely the best example of the phenomenon. (Edit to add that I've just noticed the same point from Flash) However, I'm not accepting that Fowler's achieved more at Queens than Johnston did. I like Fowler fine. I think he's done quite well so far, but that's all. Surely no jury can return with a verdict on him until we get a decent view of how the side he's compiling, performs. Agreed on your first and final paragraphs. As for the middle one I suppose it's all relative. Johnston put two trophies in the cabinet but against inferior opposition. He is also an unknown at this level, and thus far a failure at the one above. Fowler hasn't achieved anything that hasn't already been done before, even by the much maligned clown, but he has done it against tougher opposition, and with much less experience than any of the others. Don't get me wrong I like Johnston a lot, the reason for bringing him up was to highlight the fact that managers of a similar calibre to Fowler have been poached from us in the past. The view that for us to knock about in the middle of the second tier represents some huge over achievement which can only be evidence of managerial genius, seems remarkably resilient; even though we've spent much of the last decade in just that territory. We're gradually shaking off the diddy club tag, but you're right with what you say. We probably won't shake it off completely until we play in the top division. Even then we would have to stay up or be labelled one hit wonders. After doing well in the televised games last season I can see us being the football hipsters choice next year. "Of course Queen of the South are always a tricky opponent with their counter attacking style" From some journo who has watched us twice but wants to sound edgy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 This week the guest publication in the missing words round is Pie & Bovril. I'm no expert in reading stars but I believe he means a 'good bloody pizza and a new Bike.' Could be wrong though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 A couple of posters could use this as an avatar, not naming names. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shampoo Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 There is absolutely no chance we didn't offer one of our best players a contract. If Hilson wanted to go full time we weren't going to stand in his way but if he couldn't get a FT side then he would have more than likely signed up again at Forfar, even if he had other part time offers. All the best to him though, deserves his shot at a higher league! Best played up front but does well out wide too. He can be anonymous at times but can pop up with a goal out of nothing. That's what I said, Forfar DID offer him a contract and it looked at one point he was going to sign until full time club came in for him. And Hilson made it clear he wanted to go full time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS LEFT PEG Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Loop Not entirely sure that that's what I said.I do think however that we're currently punching at about our weight - maybe just above. We're certainly not underachieving, but we're not doing outrageously well either. To be exact, I think Queens are one place above where they should be in Scottish Footballs natural order . As you say , not that startling . Falkirk and Dunfermline finished below us but are clearly bigger clubs than ourselves . On the other hand , Hamilton were well above us but are smaller than us . Accies are the real stars of our game with their present position. Edited June 26, 2015 by JRS LEFT PEG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Agreed on your first and final paragraphs. As for the middle one I suppose it's all relative. Johnston put two trophies in the cabinet but against inferior opposition. He is also an unknown at this level, and thus far a failure at the one above. Fowler hasn't achieved anything that hasn't already been done before, even by the much maligned clown, but he has done it against tougher opposition, and with much less experience than any of the others. Don't get me wrong I like Johnston a lot, the reason for bringing him up was to highlight the fact that managers of a similar calibre to Fowler have been poached from us in the past. We're gradually shaking off the diddy club tag, but you're right with what you say. We probably won't shake it off completely until we play in the top division. Even then we would have to stay up or be labelled one hit wonders. After doing well in the televised games last season I can see us being the football hipsters choice next year. "Of course Queen of the South are always a tricky opponent with their counter attacking style" From some journo who has watched us twice but wants to sound edgy. And the pitch, dont forget the pitch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Loop To be exact, I think Queens are one place above where they should be in Scottish Footballs natural order . As you say , not that startling . Falkirk and Dunfermline finished below us but are clearly bigger clubs than ourselves . On the other hand , Hamilton were well above us but are smaller than us . Accies are the real stars of our game with their present position. Yip, that's about the size of it. Morton are probably potentially bigger too (although they're now back with us) and Ayr are currently below where they should be, but the whole point of sport is hopefully that it's not all pre-ordained. As you say, Hamilton are impressively placed, as are the Highland sides, with ICT obviously occupying a particularly elevated position. All things considered, Queens are pretty much tucked into their rightful spot, inasmuch as there is such a place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS LEFT PEG Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Loop Yip, that's about the size of it.Morton are probably potentially bigger too (although they're now back with us) and Ayr are currently below where they should be, but the whole point of sport is hopefully that it's not all pre-ordained.As you say, Hamilton are impressively placed, as are the Highland sides, with ICT obviously occupying a particularly elevated position.All things considered, Queens are pretty much tucked into their rightful spot, inasmuch as there is such a place. Just a quick response. I don't consider Morton or Ayr to be bigger than us , certainly not now . Growing up, as you will remember, these two were always higher placed than us , quite often in a higher league. That wasn't yesterday though . Edited June 26, 2015 by JRS LEFT PEG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Loop Just a quick response. I don't consider Morton or Ayr to be bigger than us , certainly not now . Growing up, as you will remember, these two were always higher placed than us , quite often in a higher league. That wasn't yesterday though .Agreed, but you don't need to trawl all the way back to our youth to find them stronger than their current berths.FWIW, I see Ayr and Raith Rovers as the clubs most comparable to our own. I think that Morton probably are still a bit bigger, but the whole point of course, is that such things as relative statures are fluid. Edited June 26, 2015 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishyeltz Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 You must be sober tonight J haha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Loop Just a quick response. I don't consider Morton or Ayr to be bigger than us , certainly not now . Growing up, as you will remember, these two were always higher placed than us , quite often in a higher league. That wasn't yesterday though . Historical both of these teams carried a bigger support than us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS LEFT PEG Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Historical both of these teams carried a bigger support than us. " historical" or historically - I think you meant - is the killer word here . Edited June 26, 2015 by JRS LEFT PEG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northfield 53 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 That's what I said, Forfar DID offer him a contract and it looked at oneDi point he was going to sign until full time club came in for him. And Hilson made it clear he wanted to go full time.Do Queens have to pay a fee for Hilson if Forfar offered him a contract as he is 22. Are Paton and McKenna gone now ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Not sure but was he not only on loan at Forfar from dundee utd, if so prob incorporated in Durnans move? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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