vikingTON Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Common sense has gone out of the window with this on both sides imo, I think it's reasonable for somebody charged with double rape who has shown no sign of gender dysphoria before and suddenly starts wearing a wig and a pink anorak when they're about to go to trial not to automatically be given benefit of the doubt. ^^^ transphobe who rejects the fundamental right to self-ID expressed in the GRA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Maybe not the right thread, but I wonder if those bumping their gums about all the problems in Scotland would prefer to live in Sunak’s England or Starmer’s England. A bold take from the Brexit-voting dotard who slithered out of the country to avoid the consequences. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: 8pm BBC1. My iplayer is saying Interior Design Masters with Alan Carr at 8pm on BBC. *Insert joke about that being more entertaining* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So there’s a question of whether Forbes would approve of abortion in the case of rape. Maybe she should become Trump’s VP running mate. She's not eligible to become Vice President as she' neither American or over the age of 35 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bodie said: My iplayer is saying Interior Design Masters with Alan Carr at 8pm on BBC. *Insert joke about that being more entertaining* Set it to Scotland or https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Bodie said: She's not eligible to become Vice President as she' neither American or over the age of 35 You do know that you're replying to a troll? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, sophia said: You do know that you're replying to a sundowning old man? Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Stepping back and letting them make the decision. If your safeguard is a risk assessment you have to let it happen. It also didn't help accusing Dryden of lying about changing gender - that played right into the hands of those who opposed the bill. Couldn't have put it better 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Common sense has gone out of the window with this on both sides imo, I think it's reasonable for somebody charged with double rape who has shown no sign of gender dysphoria before and suddenly starts wearing a wig and a pink anorak when they're about to go to trial not to automatically be given benefit of the doubt. That's not the point though is it? If you suggest that the safeguard to ensure the safety of others in especially high risk scenarios, and the appropriate placement of prisoners, is that there will be a risk assessment, you cannot override that, before it has even happened, on a whim because an ex-screw is mouthing off in the press and you keep getting asked about it. You either show that you have robust policies to deal with outlying cases, based around expert judgement and established parameters, or you show you have a policy which is made of vapour. Edited March 14, 2023 by Genuine Hibs Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, virginton said: ^^^ transphobe who rejects the fundamental right to self-ID expressed in the GRA I'd think this bit of the new GRR bill might exclude someone's application if they only applied for it after being arrested for a double rape. Edited March 14, 2023 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Ooh audience participation tonight. Orange jacket watch has begun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: Couldn't have put it better That's not the point though is it? If you suggest that the safeguard to ensure the safety of others in especially high risk scenarios, and the appropriate placement of prisoners, is that there will be a risk assessment, you cannot override that, before it has even happened, on a whim because an ex-screw is mouthing off in the press and you keep getting asked about it. You either show that you have robust policies to deal with outlying cases, based around expert judgement and established parameters, or you show you have a policy which is made of vapour. If the risk assessment was that there would be no risk by putting a double rapist in a woman's prison before they were fully assessed, as they would be kept in solitary confinement, why couldn't they have been safely put in solitary in a men's prison until a decision was made? I just find the decision made and the coincident timing of it hard to understand. It's not like they have hunners of cases to deal with, just two last year I believe. The Justice system isn't a perfect insular world that doesn't need to pay attention to public perception. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Humza desperately checking notes whilst Kate gaining in confidence and match fitness 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Watching the debate a bit behind, but all empty platitudes from the three so far. Fix the NHS by diverting all the money to front line staff, presumably the nurses can handle running the payroll, laundry services, and building maintenance, while the doctors can order supplies and negotiate with the drug companies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I disagreed with quite a lot of what Salmond said and almost everything Sturgeon came out with but by f**k you could not argue with their ability to engage and communicate. This choice of three - maybe as a result of having been formed under such strong personalities- really haven’t progressed much beyond the sixth form. Andrew Neil, and God forbid even Kuensberg, would wipe the floor with any of them inside 5 minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Maybe not the right thread, but I wonder if those bumping their gums about all the problems in Scotland would prefer to live in Sunak’s England or Starmer’s England. Whataboutery. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Imagining the type of guy who goes to a SNP leadership debate and complains that they want to break up the UK and nothing they say could persuade him to vote for them. Strange man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Can you lads and lassies let me know if its worth a watch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Trogdor said: Can you lads and lassies let me know if its worth a watch. It’s not (I’ve not watched it either) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Can you lads and lassies let me know if its worth a watch. It was an improvement on last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: It was an improvement on last night. That was not difficult. Edited March 14, 2023 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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